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Fixing the word "USian" (Meta)

By The Shrubber
Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:48:04 PM EST

/etc

"America" is ambigious; either we're talking about the USA, or we're talking about the continent. Normally, this is not a big deal, because when someone speaks of "Americans", they're talking about people from the USA. Most people don't have an issue with this. Very likely, context does the disambiguation for us and there's no need to fret; however, this is Kuro5hin, and we at Kuro5hin (i don't claim to be speaking for us, but give me a 2 second license) just like things to work right (who here codes?). As a result, many of us to start saying "USian" instead, which WORKS, but not as perfectly as it really could. What i propose is that we instead solve the problem through the back door.

(You might think of this as a followup to Kuro5hin article USians: K5 Jargon, Slur, or Sniglet".)

 


Here in France, there are a bunch of people called the Academie Francaise (link's in French), who care deeply about the French language and are trying to save it from the rotteness of foreign influence, like the English computer jargon that are seeping into the French language. Take email for example, see how unFrench that is? "Je vais faire un petit email ý mes potes" A proper French way to say this would be "courrier electronique", but that is way too long a word for such a speedy idea. So what do the Acamedie Francaise do? They propose "courrierelc". Get it? E-mail ý la francaise! Congratulations! Pat yourself on the back! Nice word! But hello? Have we overlooked something here? People talk the way they want to talk, and nobody, NOBODY actually walks around saying "courrierelc". Nope. Email email email. Anglicismes 1, Acadamie, 0. In others, what i'm saying is that i am 100% aware of the mental-wankerishness of what i am about to propose, but i still find it an amusing enough exercise and would like your help in furthering its progress.

Saying "American" drops us into the ambigiuity about whether we're referring to the American continent, or whether we're talking instead about the USA. For now, it's mostly the latter and in the cases that it's not, context solves the problem for us. But what happens in the future? What happens when South America becomes more and more important (not that i'm predicting anything) or the US less and less? I'm sure we can keep up with this "i'm an American" crap, but it's realy not very nice.

Only problem is that trying to get people to say something else isn't going to lead us anywhere. EVERYBODY says "American" for USians (except Kuro5hiners), the French say it, Ethipioans say it (there was a Lonely Planet Amarhaic guide i was looking at), Canadians say it... well, okay, the Chinese don't say it (mei\/ guo- ren/), but we can make an exception. "America" in refering to the "United States" is way too entrenched to go away. Remember "courrierelc?"

So why not solve the problem through the back door? America the country still gets to be America. The USA remains literally, the "United States of America", except now the last bit refers to the country as a whole as opposed to where those united states happen to be. So every US citizen still walks around happily saying "yep, i'm an American."

USA keeps its name, but the CONTINENT NAME CHANGES. Ah! Think about it. How many times do people say "America" when talking about the contintent anyway? This would be a far easier change to make because it doesn't step on anybody's linguistic habits. Now the only problem is that we need to find some sort of new name that isn't going to upset anybody (geez, you should see Euro bills, all bridges and windows). In addition to avoiding political uproar, i think we should also try to do minimal linguistic damage. For example, it should maybe rhyme with "America", or the very least, have the same number of syllables (for example, so we can pop it into songs/poems without making it hurt too much). The linguistic damage bit is rather difficult because it's not only English that uses the word.

Anyway, this is where y'all come in. What should we call our new contintents? Remember that it should be as smooth a transition as possible. I suggest "Terranova" as in "North Terranova" and "South Terranova" (Terraneuf du Nord?). But is there a better way? We should pay particular attention to what effects this new word has in Spanish and Porteguese

Also, it occured to me that this would have ramifications for the Native American people. We should see this as an opportunity. I mean come on, "Native American" is a far improvement over "Indian" (Indian dot, or Indian feather? Sorry! Sorry, every Indian [both sense] reading this), but it smacks so hard of political correctness (though it's really more innocent and simply correct) that nobody takes it seriously and you get Random White Southener making jokes like "well, I'M a Native American". Ha ha ha. Oh yeah. Dying laughing. But seriously, guys, here's your chance to extricate yourself from the mess. What i propose is we find a word that means "people" (> tribe) either in a dead tribal languange (neutral) or common to many tribal languages, and recycle that word in English et al so that it refers to what we now call Native Americans. That's the second part where y'all come in, espcially the NA among you, what word could we possibly use?

Anyway, i realise this is all completely pointless, but who knows, maybe this might actually start some new Kuro5hin conventions. So think about it: what can we rename these two continents, and while we're at, what can Native Americans rename themselves? If we solve this, we can walk away happily, patting ourselves on the back, watching NOBODY listen to us. Oh well.

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Fixing the word "USian" | 46 comments (22 topical, 24 editorial, 1 pending) | Post A Comment | Edit Story
US-Americans (none / 0) (#46)
by YesNoCancel on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:49:55 PM EST
(kuro5hin@nucleophilia.com)

What about "US-Americans"? That seems to be the best alternative to me. The term is widely used in German ("US-Amerikaner") to distinguish between "America" (the USA) and America, the continent.

Btw, when talking about continents, there's only one continent called America. North and South America are just different parts of the same continent. After all, we always talk about the six continents (Europe, Asia, America, Africa, Australia/Oceania and Antarctica), so the notion of North and South America as separate continents doesn't fit in.


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I still don't see what's wrong (none / 0) (#44)
by zsau on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:25:28 PM EST
http://zsau.firespeaker.org/

There's no need to change anything or make anything new. 'Yank' is there if you want not to use 'American'. There is no such place as 'America' except in the colloquial sense of the United States of America.

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Editorial: -1; terrible spelling, grammar and it's pointless. (5.00 / 2) (#42)
by kwsNI on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:15:57 PM EST
(AIM: kwsNI2000) http://web.nmsu.edu/~ashapiro

"America" is ambigious; either we're talking about the USA, or we're talking about the continent.
I'm sorry, there is no continent on any of my maps called "America". There is a "North America" and a "South America".

And dammit, capitalize the word I. Don't use the word Y'all, quit RANDOMLY capitalizing words, there's no logic to the words you emphasize with bold, don't start sentences with "Only problem is that..." - it should be "The only problem...".

Don't even get me started on why a large chunk of the worlds population think that this is an asinine idea changing the names of the continents because you can't figure out what definition of a word is being used.

kwsNI
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French canada (none / 0) (#38)
by Hillman on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:53:28 PM EST

Here in Quebec, there's an agency called Office de la Langue Francaise. You might have heard from them on a crappy sixty minutes news story. They are the Language police. Well, if the courrierelc thing didn't catch on, it's because it's unprononcable(sp?). The OLF here introduced courriel and now about everyone uses it. Even my mom and my dad. Make it catchy, short and hip and people will use it.

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Editorial: Couple of things (none / 0) (#37)
by PhadeRunner on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:53:17 PM EST
(robin (at) digitalevacuation (dot) org) http://www.digitalevacuation.org/

"I'm sure we can keep up with this "i'm an American" crap, but it's realy not very nice."

i'm should be I'm

realy really has two ls, thus really

i am 100% aware of the mental-wankerishness of what i am about to propose

I love this sentence, with some modification it could be sigged very nicely. I'm keeping my eye out...

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Phading away...


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You're all a bunch of Texans to me... (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by dipipanone on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:42:27 PM EST
http://www.drugarm.org.au/gallery/ana14a.jpg

Here in Liverpool, the world is divided up into two nationalities. Locals are referred to as 'Scousers', after our local dish, Lob Scouse - a form of stew.

Anybody from anywhere else is called a 'Texan'. The term covers people emanating from places as close as Widnes or Birkenhead, towns that are immediately adjacent to ours, to those from the furthest reaches of the globe, regardless of nationality.

Why Texan? Well, if you aren't one of us, it doesn't really matter to us where you come from. Wherever it is, it might as well be Texas. But I've got a sneaking suspicion that the origins of the term might lie in a local fondness for cowboy films.

"There's a bunch of Texans riding into town, Hoss. Let's head 'em off at the pass..."

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Hey Wait a fsckin minute (none / 0) (#39)
by subgenius on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:00:59 PM EST

Texans can only come from Texas. Not outsiders in any other place.

Mike from South Austin, Texas.

Drive On!

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Other recommended changes (4.00 / 2) (#35)
by KilljoyAZ on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:24:45 PM EST

We should also find a new name for the British. Can't offend the people in Northern Ireland after all. UKians is inappropriate, because you can confuse them with people who attend the University of Kentucky or the University of Kansas. I propose we call them UKoGBaNIans (pronounced you-cog-ban-ee-ans).

With the recent stunning success of potential fascist Le Pen, a new name for the French is also required. His slogan "France is for the French" has made the word "French" too ethnocentric. We need to put more emphasis in the Republic by using the full name of the country, French Republic. FRians is kind of awkward (free-ans?) so I propose we call the French FRogs.

Now for the Australians. The continent and the country have the same name, but the country also includes Tasmania! Since we can't offend the sensibilities of the Tasmanian citizens, we need to find a new name for that country and it's people. In honor of Australia's honorable roots, I recommend the nation be renamed Hoosegow and its people renamed Hoosegownians. Of course, a new chant will be necessary to replace "Aussie Aussie Aussie! Oi Oi Oi!" but that is only a minor concern.

The Canadians need a new name too, because their name is based on a mistranslation of the Iroqouis word for village. We can't have the Canadians feeling insignificant. Plus we need to celebrate its bilingual heritage. I propose the name Brotherhood in French and English, or BFE for short, with its people called BFEers.

If anyone has any other suggestions for names for other people, please post a response.

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It's really not that complicated. (5.00 / 2) (#33)
by weber on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:11:47 PM EST

(Disclaimer: I'm an American)

Here's how it was taught to me:

"America" or "Americans" refers to the USA and US Citizens.

When you want to talk about the continent, you use "North America" and "North Americans" or "South America" and "South Americans" depending on which you want to refer to.

When talking about both continents at the same time, "North and South America" (or optionally "The Americas", since there's 2 of them), and "North and South Americans".

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America is not ambiguous (5.00 / 1) (#32)
by theElectron on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:09:42 PM EST

Where does this idea come from that "America" is ambiguous? There are two continents: "North America" and "South America." America does not refer to them collectively. Deal with it all you MFians. With that said, I do like the idea of changing the names of the continents. Terranova sounds pretty bad-assed (and who cares about the Spanish translation? No va would be a good thing in this case, right?).

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Nova (none / 0) (#41)
by theboz on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:14:38 PM EST
(ICQ:3475464) http://sol-boz.virtualave.net/cool.html

Nova is a word in Spanish, and it doesn't get interpreted as "no go" except in American urban legends, so I think it would be safe, except that it is an exploding star.
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Victory of Adequacy (none / 0) (#31)
by jasonab on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:09:02 PM EST
(jasonab[at]acm.org)

I'll quote the following comment:
i must say that the fact that there's a 110 comment story about it, I just find hilarious...
-- Estanislao MartĚnez,

and simply say, Adequacy is victorious.

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America is a great country. One of the freest in the world. -- greenrd
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Editorial: Typo (none / 0) (#29)
by moeffju on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:02:41 PM EST
(kuro5hin@sturmgewehr.de) http://www.moeffju.de/

First paragraph of Extended Copy:

Acadamie -> Academie
infoAnarchy - Which future do you want to live in? // Origins of Violence (interesting read)
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Editorial: Clarification (none / 0) (#30)
by moeffju on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:06:12 PM EST
(kuro5hin@sturmgewehr.de) http://www.moeffju.de/

In "Anglicismes 1, Acadamie, 0": Acadamie -> Academie.
infoAnarchy - Which future do you want to live in? // Origins of Violence (interesting read)
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I know there's no point to my saying this, but... (4.00 / 3) (#25)
by garbanzo on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:48:29 AM EST

Hey, a perfectly good electrical storm is brewing outside and, silly me, I can't find my copper codpiece. So I'll post this comment instead:

It Just Doesn't Matter.

If people (many of them Americans, no doubt) want to disrespect citizens of the USA by calling them USians, they'll do it. If those citizens want to be thin skinned and take USians as an insult, they'll do that too.

It's like you're trying to make peace where none is wanted. This is not a bug, it's a feature. It's the ITP (insult transfer protocol) at work.

Take away USians and they'll come up with another word, possibly more awkward. The more awkward the better.

I must thank you, however, for the story about courrierelc. If the US domestic political correctness folks ever start to run out of steam (Ha! As If!) we'll send them to the Academie for a rejuve. I read the word and immediately pictured a large, antlered quadruped in a Fed Ex uniform. But I'm strange that way.

sure, it's all fun and games--until someone puts an eye out

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You really hit the fucking nail on the head. (none / 0) (#26)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:50:23 AM EST

The fuss that's been made over this is totally unnecessary.

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This is a great article. (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by valeko on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:35:34 AM EST

And USian is a really good word, as is UKan. I don't understand why people are fed up with it. Maybe it's because they can't pronounce it?

It's not "yoo-zhin", you silly geese. Nor is it "yoo-see-an". It's "you-ess-see-an".


"There were no academics in the USSR. Only ideologue puppets." -- trhurler, flaunting his complete ignorance with great spectacle.
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Editorial: Yes, let us bow down to the Supreme Overlords... (none / 0) (#17)
by Shovas on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:33:41 AM EST
(darvan AT flashmail DOT com) http://www.inconceivable.org

Such that we do not step on their toes, but rather crush the heads of the far greater multitudes of the earth's inhabitants who have learned through hundreds of years that the two lonely continents to the west of Europe are North and South America.It is laughable to assume the world should or would kneel to America's pompous arrogance, allowing them to remain "Americans" while the rest of the world turns on a dime to appease those of that nation. Simply inconceivable and a more absurd idea I've not heard.

Personally, both "USians" and "Americans" are idiotic names for those inhabitants. How do you pronounce "USians" anyway? Yew-sh-ee-ens? Yew-Ess-ee-ens? The term "Americans" is more palletable than that monstrosity.

Come up with a good idea before sacrificing dignity to the United States of America. A less deserving people has never existed.
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"USian" is a terrible word (4.00 / 2) (#15)
by khallow on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:31:08 AM EST
(khallow@hotmail.com)

How do you pronounce it? I assume its "YOO-see-an" seeing as English usually emphasizes the first syllable of words. It is shorter than "American".

FWIW, I don't recall refering to myself on the Internet as "an American" while meaning "US citizen". A Google search seems to bear me out. So how did I survive all these long years without refering to myself as an "American"? Simple, I call myself a "US citizen" or "citizen of the US" (this also goes when I refer to other US citizens as well). That sort of thing.


Stating the obvious since 1969.
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Editorial: Two things (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by Simon Kinahan on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:28:57 AM EST
(simon@flatnet.demon.co.gb)

1. The first person pronoun in English is always written in upper case. "I", not "i". I know, wierd, isn't it ?

2. The principle language of Ethipia is Amharic, not Amarhaic. Admittedly, there's no standard transliteration from it to English, but I'm pretty sure "Amarhaic" is wrong.

Simon

If you disagree, post, don't moderate
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hahaha (5.00 / 2) (#12)
by turmeric on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:27:02 AM EST
(donb--at--freeshell.org) http://aeoe.freeshell.org

USian is just fine, i like it alot. now, i dont like the word 'europe'. it has too many vowels. i want to change it to 'erp'. this is a problem because referring to europeans means i am referring to 'erps' which sounds like a gastric problem. and then there is the 'erp union'. maybe i could just call you 'whitey' instead, but that might confuse with australian or south african whites. i think the solution is to nuke europe, then my language grammar will work out much better.

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Since we're stealing terms from GURPS (none / 0) (#45)
by notcarlos on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:40:08 PM EST
(alvin@hatrack.rvr)

Why not call Europe "Urop", from the Mongol bastardization in timeline Ezcalli (GURPS Alternate Earths I)?
I used to be disgusted -- now I find I'm just amused.
        -- Elvis Costello
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Not to mention... (none / 0) (#16)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:32:41 AM EST

...European sounds just like "You're a peein'"

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Or you could say... (none / 0) (#22)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:43:40 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

...Eurooopeans, like some people!


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Chancellor Martok
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"The hand of man can hold the universe in its palm, if only it can learn to unclench its fist."
-- Alpheus Togra, Dark Reign

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Editorial: Some Edits (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by SPrintF on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:24:21 AM EST
(SPrintF@tokyo3.nerv.gov)

when someone speaks of "Americans", they're

The comma goes inside the quotes: "Americans,"

USians: K5 Jargon, Slur, or Sniglet".)

Extraneous quotes.

the rotteness of foreign influence

Should be rottenness

Take email for example, see how unFrench that is?

Should be: Take "email," for example; see how unFrench that is? Personally, I prefer "e-mail," and "un-French," but that's debatable.

"Je vais faire un petit email ý mes potes"

Missing a period.

i... i... i...

Should be "I," unless you're e. e. cummings.

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Editorial: Language (none / 0) (#4)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:10:47 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

"America" is ambigious. Either we're talking about the USA, or we're talking about the continent, which is normally, not a big deal, because when someone speaks of "Americans", they're talking about people from the USA.
Maybe rephrase for clarity? Try breaking it up... "The term 'America' is ambigious. When we say 'America', we could be speaking about people from the US, or people from the American continent. Of course, it's not a big deal, since we're usually referring to the former."

"Anyway, i realise"
Capitalisation, perhaps?

And possibly various other slight improvements can be made in formalising some of the language and expressions you've used here...

Otherwise, nice article, it certainly made me smile... Terranova... hah! :)


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Chancellor Martok
your friend in Sydney, Australia =)

"The hand of man can hold the universe in its palm, if only it can learn to unclench its fist."
-- Alpheus Togra, Dark Reign

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Editorial: Terranova (none / 0) (#18)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:34:55 AM EST

Cuz we aren't just a country, we're a whole new PLANET!

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Editorial: We (USians) can call ourselves... (2.83 / 6) (#3)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:09:49 AM EST

...the greatest people on EARTH! Cuz that's what we are.

Any non-USians who reply about how arrogant/ignorant/uneducated/wasteful we are are just jealous. Sour grapes, losers!

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Editorial: I agree with this post (1.46 / 15) (#6)
by Kingmaker on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:16:02 AM EST

If only every American would show their true colours.

This is why Americans feel free to bomb the shit out of, shoot and slit the throats of brownies and blackies. It's "Because we're America, because we're white, and because we're RIGHT"

America ; a cautionary tale for the civilized world.

BTW, it's coming right back at ya, BinaryTree.

If you were being sarcastic, you probably should have used faux-tags. Just letting you know!

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Editorial: Right. (none / 0) (#43)
by ghackmann on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:24:31 PM EST

So now you accuse Americans (or USians, if you will) of self-righteousness, discrimination, and racism by saying they all think alike?

And people say Americans have no sense of irony.

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Editorial: Something I forgot to mention (3.33 / 3) (#8)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:22:55 AM EST

Who said anything about my being white? Guess what: I'm not.

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Editorial: America is 'white' (1.00 / 6) (#10)
by Kingmaker on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:25:08 AM EST

Whatever your skin colour is doesn't really matter anymore - you're an American, part of the great melting pot. Have you ever thought about why it's called a "melting pot"? Perhaps you should.

Here's an abridged version to ease your frail sensibilities : "We're America, we're Americans, and we're RIGHT. BOMB THE WEIRD BROWNIES!!"


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Editorial: Damn right. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:26:24 AM EST

You say it almost as good as we do.

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Editorial: GRAMMAR NAZIS BACK OFF (none / 0) (#13)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:27:19 AM EST

"as well"

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Editorial: Back off? (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:40:24 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

Heh, in the great American tradition of backing off, huh? No wait, you mentioned grammar Nazis...


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Chancellor Martok
your friend in Sydney, Australia =)

"The hand of man can hold the universe in its palm, if only it can learn to unclench its fist."
-- Alpheus Togra, Dark Reign

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Editorial: I love you, Martok. (none / 0) (#21)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:42:19 AM EST

Will you please marry me?

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Editorial: Erm... (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:46:16 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

Too zee gaas chamberrs wif tzou!


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Chancellor Martok
your friend in Sydney, Australia =)

"The hand of man can hold the universe in its palm, if only it can learn to unclench its fist."
-- Alpheus Togra, Dark Reign

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Editorial: But I'm not Jewish! (nt) (none / 0) (#24)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:48:27 AM EST



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Editorial: Ah, but... (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:54:24 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

...you're Terranovian! And they're grammar Nazis!


-----
Chancellor Martok
your friend in Sydney, Australia =)

"The hand of man can hold the universe in its palm, if only it can learn to unclench its fist."
-- Alpheus Togra, Dark Reign

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Editorial: Oh no! I've been bested in a nonsensical argument! (none / 0) (#28)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:56:54 AM EST

Nevermind me, just keeping this thread going as long as I can.

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Editorial: Sour grapes, loser! (nt) (3.50 / 2) (#7)
by BinaryTree on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:21:15 AM EST



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Editorial: Boo! (none / 0) (#5)
by Chancellor Martok on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:12:04 AM EST
(k5-public.mailfilters@smkcc.com) http://www.smkcc.com/

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, oi, oi! :)


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in italy (none / 0) (#2)
by KiTaSuMbA on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:08:46 AM EST

it's not so uncommon to use the word "statunitese" (from Stati Uniti, i.e. US) but I'm afraid the word "American" is way too established worldwide to really make a difference right now.
We could make a start though from K5's "trenches"! ahah :-)



There is no Dopaminergic Pepperoni Kabal!
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just wondering (none / 0) (#34)
by Rahaan on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 12:21:10 PM EST

but how is that pronounced? From the (overly general) Italian pronunciations that I've learned, it'd be something like "stah-too-nee-tay-zee" which is actually very, very cool (:

The only real problem is it sounds so foreign (thus a lot of Americans would have a somewhat natural resistance to it) and would definitely be hard to pronounce for a lot of English-only speakers...


you know, jake.. i've noticed that, since the tacos started coming, the mail doesn't so much come as often, or even at all
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you got that right! (none / 0) (#40)
by KiTaSuMbA on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 01:08:55 PM EST

the pronunciation is right... BTW, I didn't suggest English speaking ppl should use that pronunciation, I just added more "international" support to the USian theme :-)
Anyway, I find the TerraNova idea very appealing:
coherent in meaning (new land, as in Mew World), not stepping on people's linguistic and / or historical toes and easily pronounced by all american populations (both latin and NA).


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I've seen it in other places. (4.00 / 1) (#1)
by Hong Kong Phooey on Sat Apr 27th, 2002 at 11:03:56 AM EST
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It is not k5-specific.

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