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Where should Adequacy refugees go?
Yahoo message boards 9%
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Perhaps train schedule collecting would be a better hobby 27%
Everyone is here. You just think you're somewhere else. 27%

Votes: 11

 refugee history

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Dec 01, 2001
 Comments:
At first, I posted to usenet and became a usenet refugee on Slashdot. Then I became a Slashdot refugee on Kuro5hin. Now I'm a Kuro5hin refugee on Adequacy. I have a feeling that I'll be an Adequacy refugee soon. Any ideas where I should go?
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The Cycle is Complete (none / 0) (#1)
by egg troll on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 06:21:22 PM PST
I suggest a return to Usenet. Either alt.fan.british-accent or alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk. Your choice.


Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....

You're right, I'm going around in circles (none / 0) (#3)
by pyramid termite on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 07:04:08 PM PST
I got my mad hatter matrix number years ago. Ahh, hell, I'll just stick around here.
He who hides his madman, dies voiceless - Henri Michaux

 
Well, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by poltroon on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 06:28:39 PM PST
after adequacy comes rigor mortis, followed by decomposition into a puddle of slop. Get ready.


One detail to add... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by elenchos on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 08:46:26 PM PST
The death process is virtually never instantaneous, on a cellular level. Execpt perhaps in a nuclear explosion, all of the bodies cells do not die at once. It is actually possible that some cells may live on for hours or even days after "death", by whatever definition you are using.

It begins with some event which may be labled the "cause of death", such as the destruction or failure of some organ like the heart or liver. Maybe the lungs become choked with searing gasses or ravaged by an acid, say. Can you imagine the pain? Anyway, the brain no longer gets oxygen delivered in the blood, and so it ceases functioning. Again, not an instant process. Some brain cells die, others try to soldier on. Probably they panic, trying to function in some way. Picture desperate signals flying across synapses, thence to other synapes but something is wrong... no response there. What about over here...? No response there either... and now that one is down too! And that one just went? What is happening?

So then the brain finally goes from sending alarms across the nervous system to sending garbage, and finally sending nothing at all. "Death." But, still, you can have all sorts of cells still alive. The heart has quit, no more circulatory system, but then lots of cells don't need constant attention, right?

But sooner or later, they die. How can they survive, in the long run? They need oxygen, sugars, waste removal. They are prey to bacteria, but no antibodies are circulating any more.

Most people don't think too much about the exact details of the dying process because it doesn't really matter, does it? After the writing is on the wall, who cares about this particular cell that might hang on a few more minutes? The end is coming, with total certainty.

But then, why wait for the moment of "death" to realize this? Even now, the end is just as certain. And the end is certain for each of us, and for our species as a whole. We are like the individual cells of a dying body in that respect. We might go on, but that means nothing in the long run. Eventually, the oxygen will not be there any more. There will be no more food or light. Maybe a cell will die, and that cell's descendents will be there for the final death of the body. What difference there, eh? Death one way, or death another.

So maybe after we die, our descendents will see the Earth fail them. Or the sun will, by expanding to swallow the planet, vaporizing it all. Maybe their descendents will expand to other planets or stars. And what will happen to them once there? They will die there, of course. If not sooner, then later. What difference does it make?

So when some fool wants to say, "Well, forget about all that. I'm just going to enjoy my life", it's the same as looking at a decapitated person and ignoring the immediate death of the body and getting all wrapped up in the moment's life of some insignificant cell in the big toe or somewhere. Heh. Like it matters.

Didn't Peter Murphy have a song about this? I think so.


I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill


Oh, man (none / 0) (#5)
by pyramid termite on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 09:27:21 PM PST
You almost made that sound erotic.
He who hides his madman, dies voiceless - Henri Michaux

 
My experience tells me (none / 0) (#6)
by error27 on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 02:39:05 AM PST
it is not so much the destination as the journey that counts.

If you haven't read the book, "The Blue Orchid" you really should. In the book, Biggles is trying to find a Blue orchid on the banks of the Amazon. At one point, the villans fill the swimming pool at the hotel where he is staying with piranhas and Biggles narrowly escapes death.

But the point of the story is that no matter what you do you have to try your hardest. No matter where you are going--whether it's to the Amazon, or across the street--you have to enjoy the trip.

hth


 
WARNING (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Right Hand Man on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:37:23 AM PST
Usenet, Slashdot, Kuro5hin. This is a roadmap of the progression from decent citizen to geek.

The line "I have a feeling that I'll be an Adequacy refugee soon." may indicate that yet another massive hacker attack against this site is being planned by the geeks. Please, editors, take precautions against this, I would hate to know that a band of unkempt social outcasts were able to knock over Adequacy.


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"Keep your bible open and your powder dry."

It seems... (none / 0) (#8)
by tkatchev on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:21:01 AM PST
It seems that the "attack" is happening as we speak. Looks like the g**ks treasure their child pornography "hentai" more than they value human contacts.


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Peace and much love...




 

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