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 Boys can never be sexually abused by women

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Feb 06, 2002
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As we know from Andrea Dworkin, all men are potential rapists and thus deserve little sympathy. They are always the purveyors of sexual abuse.

So when a case of a Canadian female teacher decided to show her 14 and 15 year old boy pupils some practical sex education, she was pilloried in the nasty British press and bought to court.
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Fortunately the English justice system worked in its usual fair minded way and found her not guilty. It was basically her word against the boys and despite her taking the very sensible precaution of taking a morning after pill after attending a New Year's Eve party with them, the jury obviously beleived her. Even if she was guilty, most teenage boys would be grateful for attentions of an older women especially if they could get some better grades off her. So it's not a crime in my book. Unlike if it were a male teacher with female students.
       
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It's true. (none / 0) (#1)
by tkatchev on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 04:57:08 AM PST
Because as a male, your life is basically without value.

As a male, you are guilty until proven innocent, so to speak; you need to prove that your life has value, and if you fail to do so you will be disposed of.

The army and prisons are almost wholly devoted to getting rid of unwanted males from society. Sad, but that is the way our society works.


--
Peace and much love...

there is truth in what you say (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 06:59:34 AM PST
society has always had a problem with what to do with its young males. It is our society's hope that turning restless, impulsive, violent creatures into geeks improves on a history of war and conquest.

Stay tuned.

Hmm (none / 0) (#5)
by piloti on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 07:35:13 AM PST
I think geeks are quite a minority, abeit a growing one, of the male population. And the guys with geek like tendencies are not the problem in terms of violence apart from RMS of course.

The problem is there is no society sanctioned way of harnassing male violence. Even the army does not want it now due to the technological nature of warfare.

Fortunately the English have found a way through football hooliganism. The English football hooligan leads a normal life, holds down a job and even has kids but can channel their agressive impulses into beating up rival fans every saturday or Germans when the world cup is on.


RMS is not the problem, its ESR (none / 0) (#7)
by dmg on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 08:50:26 AM PST
the English have found a way through football hooliganism. The English football hooligan leads a normal life, holds down a job and even has kids but can channel their agressive impulses into beating up rival fans every saturday or Germans when the world cup is on.

This is true. During my stay in London I was amazed at the amount of 'casual violence' on display in the streets and bars over there. On the whole it was ok though, since there seems to be some sort of unwritten rule that these hooligans only attack each other and the police.

And the guys with geek like tendencies are not the problem in terms of violence apart from RMS of course.

I think ESR is more dangerous than RMS. Whilst RMS clearly is an ideological danger primarily due to the misuse of his admittedly Chomskeyesque powers of reasoning and argument, I would argue that ESR with his trigger-happy gun-crazy mindset, his naive almost child-like ideology and honest-to-goodness stupidity is more of a danger to us than anything RMS can throw at us.

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

ESR., RMS (none / 0) (#8)
by piloti on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 09:17:06 AM PST
Whoops, I always get these two confused as I am not a GNU/Linux groupie. I knew one of them was a gun nut crazy and the other was just a twat.

 
What does ... (none / 0) (#13)
by John Wainright on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 01:12:30 PM PST
RMS have to do with anything?
Of course when you think about it, "standard deviation" would apply here...
I will back away quietly now.

 
we are now even more expendable... (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by fzr on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 09:53:14 AM PST
Those wacky scientists have found a way to fertilize an egg without using sperm cells.


pshaw! (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 10:11:33 AM PST
who are women going to call on moving day? Before I feel threatened by any egg cell, I'd like to see a whole chicken carry the fridge into a moving van. Heh, we rule.

 
Close Call (none / 0) (#2)
by Orinoco on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 05:10:10 AM PST
As a schoolboy, I was almost slapped to death with a wet fish many years ago and a woman was to blame.

I've been very wary since.

That would traumatise me for life (none / 0) (#3)
by piloti on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 05:18:26 AM PST
I am sure there is support group or something for that.


 
How sad and strange (none / 0) (#6)
by Adam Rightmann on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 07:48:49 AM PST
The teacher is very attractive, but she can not find a man her age to date? Is there such a small amount of heterosexual men in England, as dmg suggests, or has she been brainwashed by the incessant sexual outpourings in the mass media?


A. Rightmann

She's Canadian (none / 0) (#9)
by piloti on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 09:37:25 AM PST
So she was intimidated by level of sophistication and sexual prowess exhibited by English lads her own age. It was a bit overwhelming so she decided to find males who were as mature as most Canadian blokes.

*Cough* (none / 0) (#14)
by hauntedattics on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 02:06:55 PM PST
Pardon me, I almost choked on my afternoon snack when you mentioned the sophistication and sexual prowess of English lads. I'm all better now (and married to an American, thank God).



Bad experience of English lads? (none / 0) (#15)
by piloti on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 03:37:54 PM PST
In the USA or UK?

Just curious.

English lads (none / 0) (#16)
by hauntedattics on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 06:06:25 PM PST
Moscow and Wakefield, Yorkshire. Randomly enough.



Not suprised at Wakefield (none / 0) (#19)
by piloti on Thu Feb 7th, 2002 at 03:02:42 AM PST
One of my friends is from there and I have visited the said town a couple of times. Yes, I am not suprised why you would form a rather unfavourable impression of young English gentleman with the 'beers n birds' culture of that place.

 
Attractive? She looks so English. (none / 0) (#12)
by elenchos on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 12:42:19 PM PST
I don't care if she is a Canadist, she's as Limey looking as anyone I've ever seen. Those beady eyes, those jutting English teeth hanging over that quivering, withdrawn English chin. The pure Anglicism of that extra 35 pounds that English women carry in an even layer over their entire bodies.

No wonder she was desperate.


I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

 
Apparently (none / 0) (#17)
by hauntedattics on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 06:24:19 PM PST
the American justice system is not as fair-minded, having thrown a 35-year-old (or so) female teacher in the pokey for having an affair with one of her 13-year-old (or so) male students. And they had a kid and were so deeply in love...sniff..so unfair!



Are you referring to the infamous (none / 0) (#18)
by chloedancer on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 06:56:53 PM PST
Mary Kay Letourneau, by chance? The ages of 35 and 13, respectively, were right on the mark.

To quote: Mary Kay's defenders see her as a victim of a miscarriage of justice. To them this is a 'Romeo and Juliet' true-life tale of impossible love. They assert that in other times and other cultures cross-generational love was tolerated, sometimes even encouraged for reasons of state (in 1152, 30-year-old royal heiress Eleanor of Acquitaine married Henry, Duke of Normandy, 11 years her junior). LeTourneau's young boyfriend professes his undying devotion to his jailed lover, vehemently denying that he was exploited. As it happens, the kid has so far come out of it smelling like a rose, pocketing many thousands of dollars from a supermarket tabloid for telling all.

But then, I've also known an individual who was 14 year-old boy while engaged in a love affair with a 30-something female teacher who is none the better for the experience; her counsel to lie about their involvement and encouraging him that it was okay to have a "secret life," etc., have had an impact (and significant negative consequences) well beyond the life of that particular "romance." In the end, it all depends what you consider to be "victimization"; I know his subsequent romantic partners have had to suffer for her "teachings" ever since.

Hmph. (none / 0) (#20)
by hauntedattics on Thu Feb 7th, 2002 at 02:54:44 PM PST
There's quite a difference between a 30-year-old marrying a 19-year-old in medieval Europe, and a 35-year-old seducing a 13-year-old in modern America.

Ms. Letourneau's defenders also conveniently leave out the fact that Eleanor of Aquitaine wasn't already married with kids at the time. They know where they can shove their 'Romeo and Juliet' fantasies.




 

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