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Linux Zealot Gets Educated

Author:

osm

Topic:

Linux Zealot

Posted:

Jan 29, 2002

Comments:

It seems as though Linux users are rabid about "educating" those who don't share their distorted worldview. Surely anyone who disagrees with a linux user must be an idiot!

In this installment, Linux Zealot gets some education of his own.

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Linux Zealot

	that's pretty damn good. (none / 0) (#4)
	by derek3000 on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 11:38:11 AM PST

	However, the last frame betrays your intricate knowledge of the GPL. This is frightening. ---------------- "Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

	The Art of War (none / 0) (#13)
	by Slubberdegullion on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 03:43:44 PM PST

	Sun Tzu wrote "Know your enemy and know yourself and you will not be defeated in a thousand battles." Knowledge of your enemy can be useful, and will generally not corrupt anyone but the weak-minded.

	very correct. (none / 0) (#41)
	by derek3000 on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 06:32:17 AM PST

	Thank you for your point sir. ---------------- "Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

	What is that thing on the right... (none / 0) (#6)
	by Slobodan Milosevic on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 01:21:50 PM PST

	In the last frame? Is it a dog? Is it a cat? What is it doing to RMS?

	Fat Cat! (5.00 / 1) (#7)
	by MessiahWWKD on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 01:28:00 PM PST

	Isn't it obvious? Cats always bury their feces. Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

	RMS (none / 0) (#8)
	by mjl on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 02:33:16 PM PST

	he looks like he has just got out of jail with his current clothes. Is this the case?

	Sort of (none / 0) (#9)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 02:38:47 PM PST

	RMS is a flawed clone of another acquaintance of Linux Zealot's.

	Is that dribble? (none / 0) (#10)
	by piloti on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 03:06:01 PM PST

	In the third frame coming out Linux Zealot's (TM) mouth. Or has he been getting some 'Open' sauce off one of his Lunix buddies?

	Linux Zealot is rabid with fury (none / 0) (#15)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 04:24:59 PM PST

	He is foaming at the mouth.

	you are so naive (5.00 / 2) (#18)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 05:18:23 PM PST

	I find your innocence charming.

	Wow, RMS has lost weight (none / 0) (#11)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 03:27:18 PM PST

	Look at that trim body and those slim calves. He's just soooooooo sexy now.

	stripes (none / 0) (#12)
	by nathan on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 03:36:00 PM PST

	Aren't they supposed to have a slimming effect? Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	vertical stripes are thinning (4.00 / 2) (#19)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 05:20:50 PM PST

	Horizantal stripes are supposed to make you look like you stole someone's curtains.

	Unstable? (none / 0) (#14)
	by Lysidas on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 04:12:25 PM PST

	Since when is Linux unstable? I've been using Red Hat for a couple years now, and it's crashed once. The Windows 2000 machine in my home, though, crashes at least 5 times daily. Also, my Win2000 box has been cracked twice...Linux -- none. Besides, why would anyone take something on this site seriously? I just started visiting this site about a month ago, and the majority of the "expert information" here is complete and utter bullshit. It takes a good imagination to come up with some of this stuff -- I'll give you that. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	Ummmmm. No. (none / 0) (#16)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 04:29:32 PM PST

	GNU's Not Usable. Usable (or Useable, whichever way you want to spell it).

	My bad. (none / 0) (#22)
	by Lysidas on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 06:06:33 PM PST

	I must have been having a dyslexic moment. Not that it matters; Nautilus kicks Windows Explorer's ass. For that matter, bash (command-line) kicks Windows Explorer's ass. As a long-time user of both Windows and Linux for a long time, I can say that Linux is much easier to use, much more stable, and all-around better. As for usability, I actually did address that (to an extent) in my first post. Recovering from a cracker (emphasis: cracker, not hacker) attack takes a lot of time that I could have been using for anything else. This isn't to mention the constant crashing. Under normal use, all the Windows systems I've seen crash between twice and six times a day. Now don't tell me that restarting constantly isn't a pain in the ass. I once read that Windows users who convert to Linux are amazed that they don't have to restart their computer daily. Wonder what that says about usability? Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	strange (none / 0) (#26)
	by nathan on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 07:03:57 PM PST

	You get much more zealous with every post, Mr. Lysidas.[1] Let's address this line: Under normal use, all the Windows systems I've seen crash between twice and six times a day. All the computers in the computer lab at the grad department where I work (and am typing this) run Windows 2000 Pro. I have never seen them crash, ever. Many people do heavy sound and graphics rendering on these computers. Is it possible you're exaggerating just a little bit? [1] I don't suppose it's any relation to Lycidas, is it? Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	The only (5.00 / 1) (#28)
	by poltroon on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 07:21:25 PM PST

	computers running Window2000 which I've seen crash are ones which also run crappy drivers for their fancy video cards. Therefore, it must be your fault that your computer crashes so much.

	Nautilus? (none / 0) (#66)
	by nx01 on Sat Feb 2nd, 2002 at 10:02:12 PM PST

	Not that it matters; Nautilus kicks Windows Explorer's ass. Now that's comedy. "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it." -- James Gosling

	Naah (none / 0) (#71)
	by budlite on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 11:32:32 AM PST

	Konqueror beats them both to death with a big pointy stick. Then again, I still find myself doing most file management (and in fact, almost everything ) on the command line.

	Dear Lysidas (none / 0) (#17)
	by mjl on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 04:32:56 PM PST

	I'm just interested to know what position you hold at osdn or redhat. Thanks in advance -- mjl

	I don't, and never said I did. (none / 0) (#20)
	by Lysidas on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 05:51:36 PM PST

	Lysidas@odsn.com went in the "Fake Email Address" box. You know, the one that you put a <b>Fake Email Address</b> into. About RedHat, that's my browser's homepage. I am not affiliated in any way with that kickass company. However, it seems to illustrate my position on open source and Linux, so I'd say it was worth putting it into my profile. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	osdn is insolvent (5.00 / 1) (#27)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 07:08:21 PM PST

	So I'm guessing we have different definitions for "kick ass". For me, it means "very successful", for you, I would guess it means "supports my distorted version of reality".

	How charming (5.00 / 1) (#33)
	by zikzak on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 09:35:10 PM PST

	`Lysidas@odsn.com went in the "Fake Email Address" box.` So you are encouraging Adequacy readers to mailbomb an innocent (in this instance) company with flame that is targeted towards a non-existant account?

	Mailbombing? (none / 0) (#50)
	by Lysidas on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 04:33:05 PM PST

	So you are encouraging Adequacy readers to mailbomb an innocent (in this instance) company with flame that is targeted towards a non-existant account? You mean the group of "brilliant minds" that supposedly inhabit this site actually know how to execute a mailbomb attack? Besides, why would you stoop so low as to run a script kiddie attack like that? Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	Unstable? (none / 0) (#21)
	by The dev0 on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 06:04:04 PM PST

	The Windows 2000 machine in my home, though, crashes at least 5 times daily. Wow! Do you try and run it underwater or something? my w2k box hasn't crashed 5 times in it's 12month+ career. Maybe you should finish the install one day. I think much that is said on this site should be taken VERY seriously, as this group is a collection of some of the greatest minds on the planet. The knowledge that can be gleaned from this site is thankfully free of the the pro-linux propaganda that tries to twist the truth and lead less-educated users in the wrong direction. I'm sure the "expert information" you see here at Adequacy is the most accurate you will find anywhere, without spin-doctors perverting the simple truth that linux is an unstable OS used only by hackers, and defended only by the same. Never fight naked, unless you're in prison...

	Underwater? (none / 0) (#23)
	by Lysidas on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 06:14:47 PM PST

	Wow! Do you try and run it underwater or something? No, all I did was install luxury items. All the unnecessary crap that bogs down my configuration is what makes my Win2K box unstable. My definition of "luxury items" means stuff like device drivers. A fresh install of Windows doesn't start crashing for about a month; the code deteriorates, with errors breeding and mutating inside the windows directory. Must the cost of TCP/IP networking be a constantly crashing system? I'd say no; look at anything non-windows and witness stability. That even includes Mac OS X, for God's sake. About Linux being a hacker operating system, that (like a great many things posted here) is a lie. Linux complements its users' skill instead of nullifying it. It works with you rather than against you. As a user of both Windows and Linux, I had a more or less unbiased opinion until I noticed which one was harder to set up, use, and troubleshoot. After realizing which one was the winner, I was converted. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	Double standard (none / 0) (#70)
	by budlite on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 11:28:20 AM PST

	I can't work out why you're making a point about how bad it is that people spread propaganda about Linux when you do so yourself. I'm getting tired of making the following point again and again. The fact is, neither OS is "better" than the other in general terms. They're both good and bad in their own ways. I don't care which OS people use. I use both Windows and Linux. I use Windows simply because it's that bit more ubiquitous and I have a fair amount of expertise in using Windows. I use Linux because I'm willing to accept that it is a viable alternative for Windows if you get to know enough about it, which I am trying to do. And I also _enjoy_ playing around with Linux, it's fun learning something new. You talk about adequacy being a collection of the greatest minds of the planet. If that is to be believed, then if so many of these great minds are so closed-minded as not to accept that Windows isn't the only half decent OS then the computing community is in trouble. So why don't you just take me seriously for a second?

	Sorry, my HTML is lacking..... (none / 0) (#72)
	by The dev0 on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 05:05:22 PM PST

	I forgot to tag: </sarcasm> Never fight naked, unless you're in prison...

	About your site, osm (3.66 / 3) (#24)
	by Lysidas on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 06:21:14 PM PST

	It seems your site (http://www.warmann.org/, according to your profile) is running Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.4.2 OpenSSL/0.9.4 PHP/4.0.3pl1 ApacheJServ/1.1.2 on Linux What scathing irony! Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	about your lies, lysidas (3.00 / 2) (#29)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 08:27:44 PM PST

	my website is served from my work computer, which happens to be running the latest microsoft operating system. it is stable, fast, and enjoyable to use. you pulled some third-rate gnu hacker software out of your ass and unleased it against my computer. it is unbelievable you are actually gullible enough to believe it is providing you with correct information. furthermore, i believe you are in violation of the dmca with your DOD attack and i will be reporting you to the proper authorities.

	stupidity rears it's ugly head again in you (none / 0) (#31)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 08:56:26 PM PST

	My dear osm, I believe that you are stupid once more. While you may work on your website from work, it is not served from there. However much you might want to believe it isn't true, the world of the Internet works on Unix/Linux. Webpages, more often than not ARE hosted on Linux or Unix computers and I believe that my friend is correct. - Pete

	Dear Pete (none / 0) (#32)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 09:15:38 PM PST

	However much you might want to believe it isn't true, the world of the Internet works on Unix/Linux. Don't try to confuse everyone with your hacker lingo. You are now simply pulling shit out of your ass. Webpages, more often than not ARE hosted on Linux or Unix computers I hardly think so. My website is hosted on a computer running Windows 2000 and connected to the internet through an AOL highspeed backbone. No matter how many times you claim otherwise, the truth remains: Microsoft connects the world. Linux hackers simply want to destroy the hard work and innovation of Microsoft, AOL and IBM. and I believe that my friend is correct. And you believe in the tooth fairy too, I would guess.

	Oh dear (none / 0) (#43)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 08:54:53 AM PST

	Could you please back that up with facts? IMPARTIAL FACTS... not some page on microsoft.com or linux.org.

	Just a little bit of information osm (none / 0) (#44)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 09:12:04 AM PST

	Youre web hosting company www.servetheweb.com uses and i quote from their website: http://www.servetheweb.com/offerings/hosting/hosting.html: "ServeTheWeb supports only two hardware and platform combinations: Dell/NT and Dell/FreeBSD." I would imagine that you would've asked for NT for some odd reason but they use FreeBSD aswell... are they MAKING MONEY using a "Lunix" OS... omg... i think they are. Are they lame kiddies who use "hacker lingo" and "GNU" "hacking tools"... i doubt it. Thanks for reading.

	FreeBSD != "Linux" OS. (none / 0) (#45)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 10:28:09 AM PST

	FreeBSD is a stolid, American operating system, founded on the truly American principles of libertarianism and corporate welfare. Do some research before shooting your mouth off next time, please. Unlike Linux, which is a joint Euro-Mexican enterprise, FreeBSD is a true patriot's operating system. -- Peace and much love...

	Thats damn lame (none / 0) (#47)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 11:47:20 AM PST

	So you dont like linux because its not american? Even though many americans work on it... thats quite childish. Many people around the world have worked on FreeBSD aswell. Also i was under the impression that a "Lunix" OS was a unix or linux and where did i say that "Lunix" meant linux?

	Don't stereotype. (none / 0) (#48)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 12:57:46 PM PST

	When did I ever state that I "don't like Linux because it's not American"? First of all, personally, I quite like Linux. Secondly, I myself am an anti-American xenophobe; perhaps for this reason an operating system written by a Euro-Mexican team is so warming to my heart. Your second argument seems to be that since a number of Americans contributed code to Linux, it must be, at least in part, an American operating system. That is simply not true. For example, I'm sure a huge number of Chinese and Hindu peoples worked on creating the Windows operating system. Does that mean that Windows is, at least in part, Chinese? No. What matters, ultimately, is the guiding management that makes the important decisions and coordinates the marketing, not the poor codemonkey working for his H1B visa. In the case of Linux, almost all the important people in guiding the OS are either European or Mexican. End of story, I don't see how you can even argue this. Finally, don't confuse a "UNIX OS", which is a generic name of an industry standard specification, (and which should rightly be called a "POSIX OS") and a "Linux OS", which a particular implementation of an OS. Linux incidentally happends to be a POSIX implementation, but also contains a great number of other, non-standard goodies. -- Peace and much love...

	eh? (none / 0) (#60)
	by budlite on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 08:11:25 AM PST

	-- In the case of Linux, almost all the important people in guiding the OS are either European or Mexican. End of story, I don't see how you can even argue this. -- I do. Where the hell does nationality come into OS "superiority"?

	It doesn't. (none / 0) (#61)
	by tkatchev on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 11:08:18 AM PST

	It's just a case of "kitchen nationalism", sort of like national football teams. -- Peace and much love...

	i wuv you. (none / 0) (#49)
	by derek3000 on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 01:25:10 PM PST

	libertarianism != corporate welfare ---------------- "Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

	Well (none / 0) (#59)
	by budlite on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 08:05:09 AM PST

	Doesn't affect me, of course, not being a US patriot and all. By the way, a friend of mine has 3 computers, each running a different OS - one runs FreeBSD, one win2k, one Linux Slackware. Guess what? They all seem to be as good as each other.

	don't know were you get ur info (none / 0) (#75)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jun 27th, 2002 at 06:05:37 PM PST

	but, were the heck did u get Mexico? Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel and then gave it away to anyone who wanted it. Anyone can develop for it and with it no matter what country they are from

	Wow. (none / 0) (#51)
	by Lysidas on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 04:50:24 PM PST

	No matter how many times you claim otherwise, the truth remains: Microsoft connects the world. Linux hackers simply want to destroy the hard work and innovation of Microsoft, AOL and IBM. Microsoft connects the world. What a load of shit. According to the Netcraft Web Server Survey (or, if you have something against a link I send you, the address is http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ ), 56.5% of the web servers on the Internet are running Apache. Whatever you feel like making up can't compete with cold, hard facts. Microsoft doesn't innovate; they copy other people's ideas and incorporate them into the next version of Windows. Take Zip compression, for example. Winzip clearly beats the Windows 2000+ Zip functionality in terms of speed and ease of use. The "new", "groundbreaking" Remote Desktop features in Windows XP seem a lot like those in PCAnywhere. Microsoft didn't come up with this; they stole it. Instant messenging clients. Microsoft looked at Yahoo!, ICQ, and AOL's messenging services, and managed to produce inferior software that's a cheap ripoff of what was already there (and is still dominant). Microsoft didn't innovate anything concerning networks in the slightest. UNIX predates DOS by years (possibly decades; I don't remember offhand, and don't feel like *looking up actual facts, instead of making stuff up). Besides, as I believe NAWL said, Microsoft products use the TCP/IP stack from FreeBSD. Here's the kicker: the whole concept of the GUI. Microsoft (actually, Gates himself) "was inspired" by the Mac design. Sure, Microsoft has improved on what they took, but it remains the original work of Steve Jobs and Apple. Microsoft has made very few actual advances in computing...except for polishing and enhancing the GUI they stole, and copying other people's ideas. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.*

	felysidy wrong (none / 0) (#62)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 01:36:11 PM PST

	microzoft licensed their terminal serving (remote desktop) vrom citrix. pcanywhere is a knock-off of citrix. ur instant mezzinger is hawked by AOL, hacker-bane-scourge of the net. MegaDonald's u see. Stevie Jobs dinn't produce the GUI you speak of. He stoled it too from some kids running through the Parc. Xerox. Palo. Alto. Research. Center. Misinformed 1337 h4ck3rz. Mall rats of the millenium. the troll king

	OMG your are a dumb ass... (4.00 / 1) (#64)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Feb 2nd, 2002 at 05:00:46 PM PST

	Did you know that Apache is also running on Win32 also???? So don't assume that just because it says APACHE....it means...*UNIX !!! And then...Gates didn't steal it from Jobs & Apple... Jobs & Apple STOLE IT FROM XEROX PARC dumb ass !!! Jobs & Woz were invited to Xerox Parc in the late 70's/ early 80's....and that's where they first saw the Mouse and something called a GUI !! Something the Linux community still can't figure out how to to right !!! Mad

	You misunderstand me (none / 0) (#65)
	by Lysidas on Sat Feb 2nd, 2002 at 08:10:22 PM PST

	Did you know that Apache is also running on Win32 also???? So don't assume that just because it says APACHE....it means...UNIX !!! You're missing the point. Apache runs well under Windows. The point I'm trying to make is that Microsoft hasn't written the software that connects the Internet, as osm claims. The platform that Apache runs under isn't important; Apache2 will run better under Windows than ever (hinting that Microsoft has the most to gain from its release). The important thing is that 56.87% of the Internet is running Apache, as opposed to 30.25% running IIS. And then...Gates didn't steal it from Jobs & Apple... Jobs & Apple STOLE IT FROM XEROX PARC dumb ass !!! Jobs & Woz were invited to Xerox Parc in the late 70's/ early 80's....and that's where they first saw the Mouse and something called a GUI !! Okay, Apple & Co. copied a Xerox GUI to create Macintosh. Gates copied a Macintosh GUI to create Windows. Therefore, the ancestor of Windows is a Xerox GUI, but Windows' "father" is Macintosh. It doesn't matter where Jobs got the Mac GUI from; Gates copied its design to create Windows. Something the Linux community still can't figure out how to to right !!! I beg to differ. Take a look at Nautilus, GNOME, KDE, or Mozilla. They all have nice, pretty GUI's. Functional, too. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.*

	OMG !!...trying to back out now huh???.. (none / 0) (#67)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Feb 2nd, 2002 at 11:47:59 PM PST

	Dude...face it....YOU GOT OWNED !!!! You say that... "but Windows' "father" is Macintosh. It doesn't matter where Jobs got the Mac GUI from; Gates copied its design to create Windows." It doesn't matter????? WTF....oh..it matters when Gates stole it...but it doesn't matter that Jobs&Company stole it???? Talk about hypocracy...YOU ARE A DUMB MOFO !!! What is wrong for one is right for another ???? That is really racist !! Then you say... "I beg to differ. Take a look at Nautilus, GNOME, KDE, or Mozilla. They all have nice, pretty GUI's. Functional, too" Umm...I've been to Linux land....and ya know what...there's nothing out there except a bunch of hacked software that runs on one, but not on another... KDE, GNOME, and Nautilus such big time..you'd think that at this point...SOMEBODY out there in this "FREE" world of GNU could develop a GUI that's quick and works... Put it this way...load a copy of Win98 on a machine....and run tests such as application load times, and internet browsing..... load up Netscape for win32 and trying loading graphically complex website...like.. www.balthaser.com www.shockwave.com etc...etc... and record the times.... then load a fresh copy of RH 7.2 with all the goodies and GUI...KDE let's say.. then do the same tests..... the same EXACT MACHINE...Win98 or Win2k-pro will win hands down everytime.... Remember moron....there's a reason why Linux is only like 3% in the world..and most of them are hacks !!

	Give it a rest. (none / 0) (#68)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 03:31:51 AM PST

	Even when you post anonymously, you're boring. Oh, sure. This sort of crap that you seem to think is clever has its place. But the whole point of adequacy is to rise above that shit. Please. If you're going to post here, then try to understand that the adequacy has raised the bar, and that the childish nonsense that you're you've gotten some repsonse to in the amateur leagues isn't going to cut the mustard here. Come back when you've learned to be more sophisticated.

	Oh please.......... (none / 0) (#69)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 07:46:08 AM PST

	"Come back when you've learned to be more sophisticated" What???? this site is above the rest??? In my 24 hrs. that I've been here....all I've found is a bunch of *unix morons probably like you that can't handle crticism and start to complain and cry at the first bit. And talk about uneducated......for whatever his name was to say that Jobs&Co is the father of GUI and they developed it....well.... now I see the calibur of people that are on here and that use linux.... Mad

	tard (none / 0) (#74)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Feb 18th, 2002 at 01:50:58 PM PST

	funny you reference kuro5hin.org as shit when adequacy, the "villiage on a hill" is based on its "scoop" application.

	You are so wrong (none / 0) (#52)
	by skilm on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 12:19:13 AM PST

	OSM, Will you kindly explain, if AOL, Microsoft, and IBM are against me, why do I see Linux in EVERY single IBM commercial? Why is IBM dumping it's version of UNIX (AIX) soon to use Linux in all of it's high-end database servers? Why do sites like Yahoo, Google, even this site run on FREE UNIXes? Why does AOL use Sun's UNIX on their website? I'll tell you why. Microsoft's "Server software" is vastly inferior to any UNIX, not just Linux. Have you ever used MSN Messenger? Do you know why it constantly "goes down for maintenance?" Because they run the servers on Microsoft software and as we all know, Windows ALWAYS wants to reboot. Another example - the "Code Red" worm affects ONLY IIS, Microsoft's Web Server. Microsoft's Software, at least as servers, is much less stable, and requires more babysitting. All of Windows, servers and desktop machines, are insecure. There may be security bugs in some Unix software packages, but have you ever heard of a VIRUS on Linux? Of course not, because it can't be done. There is a new Outlook e-mail virus every week. I can tell you because I support Windows at a help desk. It's WAY too easy to "break" a Windows machine. Just to point out, there are many UNIXes that you pay for (Sun Solaris, IBM AIX, SGI's IRIX, and HP's HPUX. It's not all "communist" - Pete ------------------------------------------------- Bread + Egg Nog = Bread Nog

	Blah, blah, blah (none / 0) (#53)
	by osm on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 02:26:18 AM PST

	Some dude, some chick, whatever. IBM and Microsoft have been partnering from the beginning. In fact, IBM co-developed Windows in its initial phases and sold their version in communist China, since it wasn't stable enough to sell in the United States. This was fine with Microsoft, since it would cut down on the rampant pirating that goes on over there (interesting that they are avid linux zealots there). I know you have a socialist agenda to push here, but you came to the wrong place, pal. Nobody here wants any part of your little toy operating system which is used almost exclusively for stealing music videos and hacking into corporate websites. Now, run away before I kick you.

	Strange (none / 0) (#57)
	by budlite on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 07:54:06 AM PST

	Last I heard Linux was most used for back-end server work and hosting. Not quite sure how you arrive at the misguided conslusion that Linux is often used for stealing music videos. The majority of P2P clients are primarily Windows-based, I know of only a few that work under Linux. Anyway, it's just as easy to hack into a website using Windows as it is using Linux, if not easier. The operating system doesn't matter a great deal in these matters.

	Amazing (none / 0) (#63)
	by Lysidas on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 02:58:46 PM PST

	This was fine with Microsoft, since it would cut down on the rampant pirating that goes on over there (interesting that they are avid linux zealots there). I can tell you for a fact that your statement is complete bullshit, but let's pretend for a minute that it were true. Are you capable of comprehending why they're "linux zealots" in China? It's because of the outrageous prices and unstability in Microsoft products. Another reason is that they don't want to be associated with Western monopolies, but that's minor. China realizes what's going on with Windows, and doesn't want any part of it. Nobody here wants any part of your little toy operating system which is used almost exclusively for stealing music videos and hacking into corporate websites. The "Nobody here ... toy operating system" part may be true. The fact that it is shows how ignorant you are; your behavior follows the "fear what you don't understand" pattern. Linux is not a toy, by the way. It is much more powerful, more stable, and (here's the kicker) prettier than Windows. You can customize it much more, and none of the code for anything under Linux is written to save you from yourself. That stuff's native to Windows + Mac (This is what I mean when Linux works with you instead of against you; those "Modifying the contents of this folder may cause your computer to stop working correctly" messages are a very large pain in the ass).. Please make more stuff up for me to shoot down; I'm having quite a good time. Also, it seems that this arguement has reached the infamous "ignore what you can't defend" point. Here's how it goes: You make up some garbage, and hope it passes for "intelligent discourse" for a day or so. It actually does, and the mindless drones praise it as divine mandate. Someone with actual knowledge of computers steps in and shows you the error of your ways. You make up more bullshit in a half-assed response to facts that dispute what you say. You get shot down again by people who actually know what they're talking about. Seeing no hope for victory, you change the subject. I've seen this happen on at least 5 threads, and here's another one. Just a testament to the staggering debating skills of Adequacy editors. Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.

	hah! (none / 0) (#56)
	by error27 on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 05:56:24 AM PST

	>have you ever heard of a VIRUS on Linux? Of course not, because it can't be done. Lion, Ramen, RST1 and RST2... That's just some of the more recent ones.

	Still though (none / 0) (#58)
	by budlite on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 07:56:44 AM PST

	The number of viruses on Windows is still extremely significantly higher than on most other OS's.

	Linux Zealot doesn't know much about PCs (none / 0) (#25)
	by because it isnt on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 06:34:16 PM PST

	He appears to be using a small block of flats and a microwave oven as his computing device. Is this accurate? adequacy.org -- because it isn't

	Perhaps Linux Zealot believes his own propaganda (none / 0) (#30)
	by osm on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 08:49:22 PM PST

	... that linux will run on a microwave and a small block of flats better than a (superior) product will on a real computer.

	Unlikely. (5.00 / 1) (#34)
	by The Mad Scientist on Tue Jan 29th, 2002 at 11:23:20 PM PST

	What LZ holds in one hand is a crude drawing of AK-47, the weapon of choice when you can't rely on reliable logistics backing. It uses 7.62x39mm ammo. However, in his other hand LZ holds a box of 9mm ammo. So either the AK47 is rebarelled and rechambered - which is unlikely, because of differences in recommended use of higher- and smaller-caliber ammo (for light machine guns, smaller calibers with higher muzzle velocity are preferable) and for other reasons, or LZ made a blunder (which is unlikely as if he operated his AK47 ever once before, he would be likely to recognize the caliber differences, not talking about the difficulties of forcing 9mm round to 7.62mm magazine), or LZ carries 7.62mm ammo in a box originally used for 9mm ammo (more likely), or the cartoonist made a blunder (the most likely version, as the gun's magazine is curved the opposite way it should be).

	I see it differently (5.00 / 1) (#35)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 12:02:55 AM PST

	Linux Zealot's gun looks pretty clearly to be some sort of WWII era-submachinegun, either a sten, or an mp-18 Bergmann, depending on how he's holding it. Both guns took 9mm ammo. Which goes to show, there my be a lot of things a linux zealot's wrong about, but guns ain't one of 'em (WARNING: image revealed by clicking on link may sear eyeballs out of skull).

	Poor Linux Zealot (5.00 / 3) (#36)
	by osm on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 12:43:26 AM PST

	WWII era The only thing he could find drivers for...

	This comic is IGNORANT (5.00 / 1) (#37)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 01:00:10 AM PST

	Close comparison reveals that Linux Zealot has changed his T-shirt since previous episodes. This is totally unrealistic, as anyone who has had the nasal misfortune of proximity to one of these unfortunates will verify.

	give me some credit (none / 0) (#38)
	by osm on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 01:05:11 AM PST

	at least the cat has mistaken rms for a turd and is trying to bury him.

	how the hell does Linux work WITH you? (none / 0) (#40)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 06:21:36 AM PST

	And how the hell is it a complement to be assumed to know loads of shit-boring geek stuff?

	Please read (none / 0) (#42)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 08:49:38 AM PST

	The writer of this article is clearly a very ignorant and an immature person... simply not even worth reading. P.S: i also expect a very immature response to this post.

	Duh. (5.00 / 1) (#46)
	by tkatchev on Wed Jan 30th, 2002 at 10:30:44 AM PST

	Werd. -- Peace and much love...

	Just how fucking stupid are you people? (none / 0) (#54)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 03:44:36 AM PST

	those drawings look like something i puked up this weekend after 2 days of binge drinking while fucking my girlfriend in the park in front of a live audience. What kind of credibility do you people have? besides being paid off by sucking bill gates's cock, you should be ashamed of what you have eaten and for misleading the poor fools that actually belive the shit on your site.

	Well... (none / 0) (#55)
	by osm on Thu Jan 31st, 2002 at 04:06:32 AM PST

	What kind of credibility do you people have? Let's see. I would say more than someone puking up an unknown substance after 2 days of binge drinking while fucking his "girlfriend" in the park in front of a live audience.

	linux is finnish (none / 0) (#73)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Feb 6th, 2002 at 01:09:30 AM PST

	made by a finnish man and if ur school system sawks so hard u dont learn that europe is not a country the unholy prosecutor shall damn your soul

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