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Votes: 19

Turning Unix into Windows

Author:

Frithiof

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Oct 23, 2001

Comments:

OK, I've been toying around with FreeBSD for a few months now and I like it quite a bit. In fact, I spend more time 'surfing the net' and 'chatting' in Unix than I do in Windows.

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And that is what I feel I need to talk about today. I love Unix, but I also want to be able to use my Win9x/NT/2k programs in it, too. I'd also like to have a win 'classic' gui to move around in.

I've managed to get the gui, as you can see here, but as of now, I still can't run my windows programs. I'm thinking that, since I have a dual-boot system with winMe and Fbsd, I should be able to mount my fat32 partitions (heh heh, I said "mount"), install wine, and have it use the APIs in c:\windows\* instead of the incomplete, shoddy APIs that come with it (wine). This is what I'll be doing later today.

If I could have a system with the stability of Unix, the security of Unix, and the software of Windows, all in one nice little package (and at an overall cost of $0, since I can get win98se/me and freebsd for, well, free), I would be so happy. And I may not even have to worry about viruses! Yes

May God have mercy on my soul... :)

	Suggested edit: (3.00 / 2) (#1)
	by elenchos on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 08:59:21 AM PST

	How this diary would look if all referecnces to things best posted on the Sourceforge forums, or some such "hacker" hangout, were removed: [...] Windows By Frithiof Posted on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 08:41:57 AM PDT OK, I've been toying around [...]in Windows. And that is what I feel I need to talk about today. I love [...] Win9x/NT/2k programs [...]. [...]I have a [...] system with winMe [...] [...] May God have mercy on my soul... :) Amen. I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	removing "hackerish" terms (none / 0) (#2)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 09:21:27 AM PST

	You forgot to remove "Windows", "Win9x/NT/2k", "programs" and "WinME". Afterall, surely those big bad hackers wrote all those code red, nimda, etc virii? Or are you now saying that hackers only use non-microsoft operating systems and that anyone who codes on windows in their spare time isnt a hacker?

	Maybe you're on to something. (none / 0) (#3)
	by elenchos on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 09:37:25 AM PST

	"How this diary would look if all referecnces to things best posted on the Sourceforge forums, or some such "hacker" hangout, were removed:" I think this means that I am showing how the diary would look if everything that really belongs on a "hacker" forum were removed. Why do you think "I love [...] Win9x/NT/2k programs" belongs on a Sourceforge-type forum also? Perhaps you're right, I dunno, but then you'd be wanting to delete the entire diary. Well, I guess "May God have mercy on my soul... :)" could stay. Yeah, you're right. The whole thing should be changed to simply read: "May God have mercy on my soul... :)" Short, simple, and it works. I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	windows hacker forum (none / 0) (#5)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 10:02:53 AM PST

	I meant that I think a windows hacker forum counts as a "hacker hangout". So therefore terms such as "Win9x/NT/2k" should have also been left out. Are you really saying there are no windows hackers? Anyway, Id prefer it if none of the diary was deleted, Im a freebsd sys admin myself and am rather curious to see what appears here.

	I'm saying... (none / 0) (#9)
	by elenchos on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 12:18:55 PM PST

	...if that is what you want, why leave Slashdot? I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	Advice (5.00 / 1) (#4)
	by twodot72 on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 09:51:53 AM PST

	I'm feeling generous today, so I'm going to give you no less than 2 pieces of advice. Pay for your copy in WinX. Pirates always end up with a wooden leg and a hook instead of a hand, neither of which, I imagine, is very convenient. Purchase a copy of wmware, and you'll be able to run as many operating systems as you like at the same time. A truly remarkable piece of software, if I may say so.

	well, (none / 0) (#7)
	by Frithiof on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 12:02:10 PM PST

	the unfortunate thing is that I currently have a budget of $40... I don't think I'll really be able to afford a vmware license. Also, I don't really even know if vmware works with FreeBSD (I had a bit of trouble getting it to work with linux kernels > 2.4.9, too). if I could somehow squeeze as much functionality as I can out of the system I already have, I would be a very happy guy. -Frith

	Four Out Of Five Ain't Bad. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
	by FifthVandal on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 11:59:02 AM PST

	If I could have a system with the stability of Unix, the security of Unix, and the software of Windows, all in one nice little package (and at an overall cost of $0 Well in just two days time, you will be able to get the first four of those in the shape of Windows XP. Admittedly, the overall cost will be a little more than your stated budget, but hey - like Perdida said, you'll be doing your patriotic duty too! --- I was the fifth vandal on the grassy knoll!

	I've actually been quite tempted ... (none / 0) (#8)
	by Frithiof on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 12:09:11 PM PST

	I've actually been quite tempted to get Win XP... if it is, as they say, based on Win 2k, it might actually be what I'm looking for. Of course, the thought of having to install virus scanners kinda gives me a limp noodle, but overall, it seems like a rather nice OS. I've grown quite accustomed to patching and updating my system, so hopefully, I won't have to worry too much about being struck down by Code Red or Melissa, or any of those other net abominations. -Frith

	Analisys of OSes (none / 0) (#17)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Oct 31st, 2001 at 04:00:28 PM PST

	Unix = still kicking ass Minix = UnixLite for PCs Linux = what Minix shoud have been BeOS (POS) = overly-streamlined NetBSD, users claim it's not AmigaOS/Amiga = making a come back Windows NT4 = fairly easy administration, if it ain't broke... AtheOS = pretty nice, but may be side lined by Linux and OSX DOS = a tweaked QDOS (a sloppily backwards engineered CP/M) CP/M = What PC Users WOULD BE using if not for MS MacOSX = FreeBSD for the desktop Windows 95 = incomplete Windows 98 = what 95 should have been Windows 98SE = what 98 should have been, & good gaming OS Windows Me = great excuse to upgrade Windows 2000 = fairly nice, slight learning curve for NT admins Windows XP = MS self promotionalizing BLOATWARE that treats you like an idiot

	:) great stuff (none / 0) (#20)
	by NAWL on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 04:51:21 PM PST

	This has got to the most intelligent and funniest thing I have read on this site EVER. Loving it. Keep it up. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	:) great stuff (none / 0) (#21)
	by NAWL on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 04:51:51 PM PST

	This has got to the most intelligent and funniest thing I have read on this site EVER. Loving it. Keep it up. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	One word (5.00 / 1) (#10)
	by Starship Trooper on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 01:44:42 PM PST

	Cygwin32. On Windows 2000, it's all the Unix I need. Other people have suggested Windows XP, but I personally can't recommend it for all the various cliché reasons. Fisher-Price-inspired GUI, draconian product activation, constant harassment to use Passport and MSN, etc. If you've got a copy of Windows 2000, I would suggest getting the aforementioned Cygwin and buying a copy of Starnet's excellent X-Win32 server for all the Unix you could ever want. --- A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace, and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace

	your screenshot doesn't work. (1.00 / 1) (#11)
	by linuxrulez on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 10:58:51 AM PST

	This http://frithiof.0catch.com../../images/unixqvwm1.jpg gives an error message: We have detected a hotlinking error. Hotlinking is when you link to images or NON html files on 0catch.com from another host. Nice host. Impressive work from an "HTML master," as your web page says, too.

	warning... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
	by Frithiof on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 11:34:31 AM PST

	don't view this at work -Frith

	well... (none / 0) (#14)
	by Frithiof on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 12:58:55 PM PST

	just take my word for it that something was there. I'm not gonna bother putting up the link again (or any similar pics)... -Frith

	You Can Have it All (5.00 / 1) (#15)
	by egg troll on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 03:48:42 PM PST

	If I could have a system with the stability of Unix, the security of Unix, and the software of Windows, all in one nice little package... You want OSX then. Mmmmmmm....OSX. Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....

	Here's another solution (none / 0) (#18)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 13th, 2001 at 05:07:01 AM PST

	While you could get MacOSX which is comprised of FreeBSD and Mach 3.0 to form Darwin, you could also download FreeBSD for the desktop. Hell you could also download DarwinOS for the PPC or x86 platforms if you wanted. Of course you wouldn't get the pretty GUI.

	desktop BSD (none / 0) (#19)
	by NAWL on Thu Nov 15th, 2001 at 04:49:16 PM PST

	I believe you mean FreeBSD desktop. Why screw around with a crappy half-assed GUI like the one the aurthor seems to like? Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	/. commentary (none / 0) (#16)
	by Frithiof on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 06:20:07 PM PST

	I just found this. it's always nice to see people debate the merits of Unix and Windows, respectively, even if they don't know the difference between Linux and Unix. :) -Frith

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