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Author:

TheReverand

Topic:

Diaries

Posted:

Sep 07, 2001

Comments:

I would appreciate feedback.

Rev's Band.

This is NOT original music. But Presentation is more important than Content.

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	Whew. Recording is a lot of work. Plus, Sylvain is a wanker.
	www.troublemint.com is up

	Well, (5.00 / 1) (#1)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 10:37:32 AM PST

	I enjoyed it. You don't sound (to me) anything like 'Me First and the Gimme-Gimmes', which is a good thing. The production didn't seem too bad for a low budget recording. I thought the guitar's sound was great, and if it were me mixing I would have turned it up louder. The guitarist's playing was quite good as well. Your voice varied -- it sounded very out of place to me trying to do the harmony on 'Eleanor Rigby', but reasonably well at home with the dramatic sneer of 'Secret Agent Man'. Others may disagree. Nothing jumped out at me about the drums or bass. I guess, for a rhythm section, that's a good thing. Rolls happened about the places I would have expected them to. Of course, in the style you're playing, it's more about energy than anything else, and that doesn't always come across real well in a recording. But I didn't think this was at all a bad demo. Do you have any plans for original material, or is this just a cover band?

	Thanks for the comments. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
	by TheReverand on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 10:52:36 AM PST

	The guitarist (me) used a Steinberger through a Pod 2.0. It really cranked. Eleanor Rigby was weird. There was a chorus and Phase shifter on the vocals, so it basically detuned stuff. We were in tune when we first recorded it. Unfotunately our drummer added a third part, and he really doesn't have very good pitch (art of the reason for weird effects). I would recommend grabbing free bird, it's pretty ridiculous. I'd say we're mostly going to do covers, we have about 30 tunes so far. Understand, this is 2 40 year old guys and me, who all work full time and practice once a week. We've basically been together since April or May, and we just want something to do on the weekends. As long as it stays fun, I'll do it. I have some original stuff I can do, but I think I may try to keep this thematic. Thanks for listening!

	Cool. (5.00 / 1) (#3)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:11:02 AM PST

	I'm a big Steinberger fan myself. Or I would be, could I afford one. They don't make discount versions of his violins, you know. (I don't really play much guitar.) Beauty, isn't she? Someday... (Actually I have the money, I just could never get it past my wife. Of course, we're buying her a Steinberger; but she plays bass, so it's not quite as pricey.) And yeah, I listened to Free Bird. I'm going to refrain from commenting on your vocal embellishments. The soloing at the end was really good, though.

	My steinberger is an old one from before he was bo (5.00 / 1) (#4)
	by TheReverand on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:29:01 AM PST

	ught out by gibson. The ones with no headstocks. Those violins are hardcore, my girlfriend wants one as well. Vocal embellishments? Is it my fault Ronnie Van Zant speaks through me? ;)

	Yeah, that's a really good thing about his (none / 0) (#5)
	by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:53:02 AM PST

	classical stringed instruments; they're still made in his workshop, under his supervision. By NSDesigns, not affiliated with Gibson. Gibson still makes the guitars and basses without headstocks; that's the kind my wife wants. Seems like you can't find them in stores anymore, though -- have to order them straight from MusicYo. Probably still not as good as the ones made before the Gibson buyout, but I've never compared. (Hell, I don't think I've actually seen a Steinberger guitar from before the buyout)

	NO NO NO (5.00 / 1) (#6)
	by TheReverand on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:59:55 AM PST

	DO NOT buy one from musicyo. The only thing they have in common are the shapes. Go here to get a used one or a kit to build one. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but they have a ton of real steinberger stuff. Buying from musicyo is not a good idea, it's just gibson crap.

	Request: (none / 0) (#22)
	by momocrome on Sun Sep 9th, 2001 at 03:32:29 AM PST

	Please STFU at once. thx. I play a '71 SG. Since I've been playing, I've had many other an axe pass through my hands (most notably, a ~mid-60's Vox teardrop 12-string hollow body w/ tremelo, reverb and distortion circuits and a wah handle on the bridge.) Without a doubt this SG is the best. You can take that graphite crap and keep it, AFAIAC. Wtf is wrong with wood you crazy bastards? This particular Gibson is fast and warm with an incredible sweet spot around the 10th-11th frets, which be my box for those Greg Ginn/Lou Reed/Sid Barret type solos that are a must in any rock song worth your time... The only limitation I find with the SG is in playing like Alex Chilton (Big Star), with the twang rythm/lead combo lines. The steins are cold and clinical by comparison, with an unfavorable linearity that could only be loved by what's his fuck (surfing w aliens?). There's a reason the actually masterful guitarists stick with SG's, and it isn't the shape of the body. No, unless you are stuck on strats, it's the best agressive lead axe and the meanest rythum monster going. Please, for your own good, rethink this foolish bigotry! -momocrome

	SG's are ugly as hell (5.00 / 1) (#23)
	by iat on Sun Sep 9th, 2001 at 05:05:46 AM PST

	Your SG may sound good and play well (I wouldn't know, I've never played one), but it's ugly as hell. I would never spend good money on such an odd looking axe. I far prefer the Les Paul shape, as far as Gibsons go. Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

	A 71 SG is a good guitar (5.00 / 1) (#24)
	by TheReverand on Sun Sep 9th, 2001 at 02:44:21 PM PST

	Anything made in the last 10 years is shit. Gibson has gone down the crapper as any guitarist can tell you. I own a 61 les and a 57 les. Both are amazing instruments. But they don't have the versatility or playability of my steinberger. The graphite neck is perfectly flat. Not everyone likes that, but I do. Oh yeah, no matter what I do to it, it doesn't go out of tune. Brilliant design, the full body is attractive, even without the headstock. I know. You're jealous. Live with it ;)

	It's good. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
	by iat on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 12:31:52 PM PST

	I grudgingly admit that you've got talent. Your voice is good and suits the material well, while your guitar playing is pretty tight. It's well produced too, not bad for 10 hours work. Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

	Thanks! (none / 0) (#8)
	by TheReverand on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 01:07:43 PM PST

	I'm shocked and appalled but I appreciate the compliment. I here by take back 4 or 5 of the several thousand insults I have thrown your way both in front and behind your back ;)

	Hmm (none / 0) (#17)
	by zikzak on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 07:49:17 PM PST

	Now that I've actually had a chance to listen to this stuff, I'm afraid I must agree with iat. This is a thousand miles away from what I usually listen to, but he's right. You guys can sing and play. I'm impressed. I'll also agree with zornchugger too, though. I would have mixed the guitar higher. So anyway, Rev & Gnarph: World Tour(?) The clash in styles would be reason enough to go.

	I am impatiently waiting to get home (none / 0) (#9)
	by motherfuckin spork on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 01:40:35 PM PST

	so that I can be using a computer with speaker so I can here your recordings... on the side, a few questions: Where in Cleveland? Do you guys play out? You fans of The New Bomb Turks (I am maritally obligated to ask)? How did you get the drummer to sing? I've never, ever been able to convince one to do that (except Zach, but I've never actually played in a group with him)... I am not who you think I am.

	How did you get the drummer to sing? (5.00 / 2) (#11)
	by iat on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 02:27:38 PM PST

	How did you get the drummer to sing? Hey, I know the answer to this one! You make sure that the drum riser is level. No, wait, that's not right. That's how you get the drummer to drool out of both sides of his mouth. Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

	I forgot to mention.... (5.00 / 3) (#12)
	by iat on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 02:29:16 PM PST

	Why is a drum machine better than a drummer? Because you only have to punch the song into a drum machine once. Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

	I live on the east side (5.00 / 1) (#13)
	by TheReverand on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 02:51:19 PM PST

	grew up here. We haven't started gigging yet, because we're all fat and lazy. But soon ;) Our problem is more that our drummer won't shut up. He's not really a very good singer. But he's acceptable for backups. And no I'm not a big fan of NBT. Are you married to a member? What's the deal with cleveland?

	the connection (none / 0) (#15)
	by motherfuckin spork on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 06:30:37 PM PST

	my wife is from Lyndhurst... her cousin is in NBT - met him at various family functions. We're up that way all the time, since we only live down in (gulp) the Cincinnati area. just curious, mostly. I am not who you think I am.

	well well (none / 0) (#20)
	by TheReverand on Sat Sep 8th, 2001 at 01:52:41 PM PST

	I will be down that way tomorrow night since I am working in cinci on monday and maybe tues. as well. Then it's off to detroit for my ass. I'm glad you like it. Once we get going we'll probably start booking gigs around the ohio area.

	update: got home, listened (none / 0) (#16)
	by motherfuckin spork on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 07:46:42 PM PST

	and I'm impressed. That's some cool shit, man! I really like it. I am not who you think I am.

	So, which one's RMS? (5.00 / 1) (#10)
	by cp on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 02:05:24 PM PST

	?

	Nice (none / 0) (#14)
	by theR on Fri Sep 7th, 2001 at 06:01:42 PM PST

	I was somewhat surprised by the quality. Good stuff. It makes me wish, once again, that I had learned to play more instruments and still played violin. Honestly, I'd be very happy going out to listen to some live music and ending up hearing a band that sounds like yours in terms of quality. It's all right to cry, Crying takes the sad out of you. -- Rosey Grier

	Rev... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
	by iat on Sat Sep 8th, 2001 at 05:33:34 AM PST

	What happened to the seventh song that you recorded? There's only six MP3s there. I want more Troublemint! Have you got any more demos? BTW, that cover of Free Bird is awesome, particularly the bit where it changes from the slow reggaesque start to the faster ending. Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

	Free Bird is my favorite ;) (none / 0) (#19)
	by TheReverand on Sat Sep 8th, 2001 at 01:37:07 PM PST

	Track 7 is hidden somewhere at the end of one of the other tracks. Woohoo!

	Oh yeah! (none / 0) (#21)
	by iat on Sat Sep 8th, 2001 at 04:09:43 PM PST

	I've noticed that it's hidden now. I'd heard it several times, but I'd just assumed it was a separate track. That's my own fault for not bothering to look at the playlist more often :) Adequacy.org - love it or leave it.

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