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Fnord? 40%
Fnord! 40%
Fnord. 0%
Fnord off. 20%

Votes: 5


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Oct 26, 2001

Enforcement of the "anti-_____" policy is laughable.


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I'm sure that this diary will get removed along with all of my other attempts to rationally discuss the topic, but I'm going to do it anyway. I'm just silly that way.

I think the "anti-_____" policy seems to need some review. At present, the only time I see it enforced is if someone commits the heinous sin of criticising or its Editors (Infinite in Their Wisdom). All else is considered "controversial, yet lively debate." Unless, of course, an Editor (Infinite in Their Wisdom) decides to take offense. In which case, it's _____ing.

Hammaburi challenged me to back up my criticisms about this site. I rose to the challenge, only to have my comments hidden, twice. The first time the comment was unhidden; the second response was much less confrontational but still hidden. Why? They both called into question the credibility of this site and its denizens. Lawks.

A website truly dedicated to "controversy" is going to face criticism. Such criticism is not _____ing so much as checking the site on its validity and credibility. I place no stock in Adequacy's policies or politics, regardless of the spread of Editorial opinions. Most of the posts and articles are caricatures, grossly exaggerated examples of extreme opinions and positions. This makes them difficult to take seriously, because they are so grossly over-inflated. For an article to reach the front page, it can't have even the slightest bit of recognition toward an alternative point of view; it must be polarized with no hint of compromise.

This is controversy? Here I thought it was just satire. But Elby, the one Editor I believe, tells me that it's legitimate. Thus, I must accept that it is.

That there are people in the world who embrace their opinions with iron-clad assurance, I do not doubt. That there are people in the world so narrow-minded that no other opinions could possibly have merit, I am sure. I'm sorry to see that this is a haven for such people. I'm not interested in creating a new Kuro5hin site. I'm simply interested in good discussion that honestly accepts the possibility of mediation.

But that isn't policy.


Hrm, (none / 0) (#1)
by Frithiof on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 06:55:34 PM PST
I think this diary entry should be left on here, just so everyone can know what SpaceGhoti's opinions are of Adequacy.

I personally like having this dude hang around and posting in our diaries that this or that should be on "kuro5hin" or "slashdot"...


Kurobot? (none / 0) (#4)
by SpaceGhoti on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 08:23:08 PM PST
When did I ever say something belonged in Slashdot or Kuro5hin? Perhaps you have me mistaken with someone else.

A troll's true colors.

yea, (none / 0) (#8)
by Frithiof on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 10:26:35 PM PST
I probably did...the original title of this diary entry probably did it for me.

btw, don't you think that this diary entry would be more suited to a place like

I certainly do.


just a blank? (none / 0) (#2)
by motherfuckin spork on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 07:20:16 PM PST
good thing you don't have my mind...

I am not who you think I am.

wow (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 11:43:44 PM PST
adequacy really did a number on this post. I read the original, it was not fucked up like this.

Bah! (none / 0) (#3)
by Hammurabi on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 07:23:54 PM PST
I wasn't challenging you to back up your statement about this site. Only a navel-gazing kurobot would assume everything was about the site. I was lambasting you because I think you made up this bullshit about it being a spoof site to get out of answering tkatchev's question as to why you hate God. I think you did that because you couldn't back up your statement about God. Hence I said "If you can't back up your statements, don't fucking make them." I was challenging you to defend your hatred of God.

Yeah, so I sorta jumped subjects there. I was drunk. Or no, it was in the morning, I was hungover.

Anyway, I saw your second response. You quoted some third-rate science fiction author to back up your religious beliefs. That's about the lamest thing I could ever imagine. That's not why it got deleted, I'm sure, but that's pretty fucking lame.

Fuck you anyway, I'm drunk.

Only the most dangerous and hardened of criminals attempts to blame the law when he is the one who broke it.

That makes MUCH more sense. (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by SpaceGhoti on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 08:48:38 PM PST
Hm. I make one reference to Heinlein and you accuse me of basing my entire philosophy on him? You are drunk. However, I appreciate the clarification that you were challenging me to back up my statement about God.

I think my philosophy is very simple. Coming from the background I did, I'm very familiar with most religious philosophies and I find that none of them work for me. Simple as that. Therefore I assume the simple stance that God is unknowable. Not just mysterious, but unknowable as in you don't know what God is or what God wants. There are lots of different opinions on both of those topics, but most of them disagree on either fine or extreme points.

So here's the problem. A lot of the opinions about God have good points. All of them assume they THEY are correct and all of the others are heresy. It sounds to me like they're trying to pigeonhole God, to limit the Limitless.

This, clearly, does not work for me. I therefore believe in God, but I don't believe what YOU believe. I labeled myself an Agnostic, but it was pointed out that this isn't entirely accurate. I therefore accept the label of "Deist."

Does that answer your question a little better?

A troll's true colors.

Your poll is dumb. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by RobotSlave on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 09:25:53 PM PST
No heading, and then the choices are a question mark, a period, an exclamation point, and the word "off?" What on earth are you referring to?

Is this poll perchance written in some sort of computing-machine attendants' language?

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Fnord (none / 0) (#7)
by SpaceGhoti on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 09:49:13 PM PST

A troll's true colors.

Listen, sir. (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by RobotSlave on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 10:41:33 PM PST
If you don't have anything to say, then don't try to provoke me with an empty message under a blank subject line.

Or were you just trying to draw attention to your "signature?"

Whatever. You dodged the question. What's up with that poll?

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Hail Eris, then hang her with her intestines (5.00 / 3) (#10)
by moriveth on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 11:43:00 PM PST
The only segment of humanity more pathetic than Ayn Rand acolytes is the "Discordians."

They disgust me.

don't forget (none / 0) (#13)
by nathan on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 12:31:02 AM PST

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Eris? Discordians? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by RobotSlave on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 12:43:54 AM PST
What are you going on about? Does it have something to do with the poll?

If someone could just provide me with a straightforward explanation of the poll without changing the subject, it would be most appreciated.

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You have my pity. (3.00 / 2) (#15)
by moriveth on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 02:40:22 AM PST
How can you live with the crushing realization of your inferiority? How can you bear the knowledge that you are missing a life-transforming masterwork beyond even Atlas Shrugged? If I were you I'd probably swallow that bottle of sleeping pills in front of me. In front of you, I mean.

Dear Sir or Madam: (none / 0) (#19)
by RobotSlave on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 12:08:37 PM PST
I deal with my inferiority in the same manner that most reasonable people choose-- I suppress my knowledge of it using sweet, nourishing alcohol (or benzodiazepines or pharmaceutical opiates or similar, as available).

What is this masterwork you refer to? Frampton Comes Alive? Or maybe Highlander? The paintings of George Rodrigue? These are but a few items on the list of masterworks that friends have recommended to me, but I have not yet had the chance to experience.

And you're still not helping me with the poll. Is it a reference to Atlas Shrugged? I tried to read that once, but found it too hard to understand.

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my god (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by osm on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 11:57:23 PM PST
and i thought i needed to get a life.

You were correct (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 05:10:55 AM PST
You do need a life.


I think I see a pattern developing (5.00 / 3) (#16)
by momocrome on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 03:59:19 AM PST
We used to have someone like you over at <a href="">Geekizoid</a> who went by the nick 'spork_testicle'. We would do silly things like change his nickname, reject his submissions, post top level stories picking on him, etc. I think the trend is that every web log has to have a bitch: signal11 on slashdot, spork_testicle on geekizoid, trhurler at k5 and, kapooft! you can guess the rest!

Introducing his Bitchness... (none / 0) (#18)
by SpaceGhoti on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 07:24:34 AM PST
Hmm...I get to be the Bitch? I always did make a lousy Bottom. And I'm sure my anal orifice hasn't been properly loosened the way they're going to want. I don't think anyone is going to be comfortable with this relationship.

I don't recall thurler getting his posts or articles altered. Modded down yes, but not altered or outright deleted. I also recall being utterly surprised when I started reading thoughtful, reasonable material from him. But I suppose that's a separate issue.

Ah well. Back to the Bitch Cave.

A troll's true colors.

He is incorrect (none / 0) (#21)
by John Milton on Mon Oct 29th, 2001 at 01:14:49 AM PST
Signal11 is the bitch for slashdot and kuro5hin. He's just that good.

-John Milton

Spaceghoti (5.00 / 2) (#20)
by elby on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 04:18:56 AM PST
From what I've seen of your posts that have been deleted, most of them them are not anything that adds to the quality of the discussion here. In fact, few of them are more than potshots at us using the words "troll."

If you called us "niggers", we'd delete those posts too.


Quality posting (none / 0) (#22)
by SpaceGhoti on Tue Oct 30th, 2001 at 12:36:05 AM PST
In what way did they violate some amorphous "quality control" that I missed? If so, how is it that my posts are any less insightful or valid than, say, an editor who posts fictional letters in an advice column to the front page?

Even those posts of mine that criticize the site (which tend to be in response to something; I don't just go around flaming arbitrarily) attempt to use some eloquence or logic to them. That's more than I can say for a lot of "NT" posts that a lot of Editors use. Some of the others were legitimate posts that didn't so much attack the site as the position of the post I was responding to. Then you yourself admitted to me the problems you were having when we attempted to get my article posted.

I haven't heard a single argument that invalidates my criticisms of this site. If you want to have a public masturbation weblog, that's fine by me. But you can learn a lot more from your detractors than your fan clubs.

A troll's true colors.


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