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 What To Do About Arafat?

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Apr 08, 2002
What to do about Yasser Arafat, the president of Palestine?

On Monday, Bush will be dispatching Secretary of State Colin Powell to Israel and neighboring states in an attempt to broker a cease fire.

But he doesn't plan to meet with Arafat. The other Palestinian leaders don't plan to meet with him either - they plan to tell him that they have to go through Arafat.

Is this a churlish move on the part of the Palestinians? Or, is it a move in a silent chess match for the leadership of the Palestinian Authority? And what's the U.S. role in all of this?


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You would have thought that the second-order Palestinian leadership - peace oriented negotiation types, like Saeb Erakat - would have jumped at the chance to meet with the notoriously level-headed Colin Powell.

That's what Ariel Sharon thought, too.

When he isolated Arafat in his compound, cutting him off from his top leadership, he hoped to provoke a split within the Palestinian Authority leadership.

His scenario, which he had, no doubt, bought from a graduate in Political Science, went something like this.

In the Palestinian Authority, the younger generation of leaders is willing to compromise core demands for a state - any state. The elder generation consists of still-unreformed terrorists and is unlikely to use negotiation as anything but a strategic feint in their war. So, if you get rid of the terrorists and pound the heck out of everybody else, the younger Palestinians will give in.

Sharon believes this, and he's gotten Bush to believe it. He's walled in Arafat, and he's gotten the Americans to negotiate now - to waltz to the table while Arafat is prevented by tanks from being there.

Unfortunately, this did not work. So far, the Palestinian Authority leadership has opted, rightly, to let Colin Powell look like a fool and a hypocrite in the eyes of the world for negotiating with Arafat's jailers.

Bush says Arafat has failed his people. Evidently, he thinks that his words can depose Arafat. To me, this is incredible. I think about Ramallah and Jerusalem - all of the foreign governments, agencies, and international organizations that lived in these towns. In Europe trade with Palestine was beginning. Palestine was opening casinos for tourists from Europe and the Arab world, and Arafat was in control of it. It will take more than words to depose him.

Bush's condemnation of Arafat, and Powell's upcoming diplomatic farce, betray not only Bush's stupiditiy but the muddle of his policy towards Palestine.

Right now, the world sees Bush standing with Sharon. His words are largely irrelevant. In action, Bush is ignoring Arafat and allowing Sharon to prosecute the most brutal attack on the refugee camps and occupied territories in the last 50 years.

On the other hand, he's spoken in support of a Palestinian state and he did send Zinni to meet with Arafat. But this seems like little more than a political gesture, especially in the eyes of world leaders who have met with Arafat in the palace that is now a bombed out cage.

If Bush wants to depose Arafat, he should do so openly, and accept the burden of disdain that is due him. If he wants to pick a leader for Palestine, one who speaks nice English and wears a hip modified suit, like Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, he should go in and do it himself.


well, they should just (none / 0) (#1)
by Aryan King on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 02:32:21 PM PST
toss Arafat in a prison cell with 7 Jewish criminals and find someone else who is more suited to serving the Israelis' and the United States' interests to replace him.

we don't need Arafat!

We must secure the existence of our people and a future fer White children.

Puppetry and Osmosis (none / 0) (#11)
by MessiahWWKD on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 11:40:01 PM PST
The problem with installing a puppet to lead Afghanistan is that puppets can turn against their masters. The best solution would be to take over Afghanistan and Israel and turn them into states. As for the disputed area, it should be a separate state. It can be that easy.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

Here's my solution (none / 0) (#2)
by Narcissus on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 03:41:07 PM PST
I'm not antisemetic like Aryan King, but this is one time when our major Jewish presence in the U.S. gov't. has hurt us. Like any other president, Bush is more worried about his next election than what's happening over there, so he is showing all his support to the Jewish state because they hold many important positions in the federal gov't.
I have a theory ... you can take this with a grain of salt if u like but i think that the 3rd anti-Christ that Nostradamus spoke so highly of is Sharon, after all what he's doing right now could easily entice Islamic countries to start WW3.

Ok, who picked the flower???

what the hell? (none / 0) (#3)
by Aryan King on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 07:15:43 PM PST
making backhanded comments like that aren't going to get you instant respect, buddy...

I think the problem is that the Muslim nations are unwilling to share Israel/Palestine with the Jews.

Arafat himself refuses to go along with any arrangement that doesn't give 100% of Israel to the Palestinians. I wouldn't either; I'd be like, "get teh hell out of my country you stupid Jews!", and then I'd take my rifle and fire 9 rounds into the air.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future fer White children.

Arafat wants Israel? That's news... (none / 0) (#4)
by poltroon on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 08:15:12 PM PST
And here I was under the impression that Arafat wants withdrawal of settlements within the pre 1967 borders, and the main point of contention is control over Jerusalem. Israel won't give up the chunk it took.

Question. (none / 0) (#5)
by tkatchev on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 08:36:34 PM PST
Why should I care?

Thanks. I appreciate not killing me for percieved "anti-semitism".

Peace and much love...

My Friend- (none / 0) (#30)
by JoePain on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 06:15:29 AM PST
You should care for this reason:

If war breaks out and Isreal has to woop-ass in the Middle East again, gas prices are going to increase. Right now where I live I pay $1.40. Now, in backwater countries such as yours where you have not replaced the donkey with the 'auto' this isnt a big deal.

But believe me, if the oil fields of the Middle East get nuked (or something else bad happens to them) we WILL go after all that black gold in Russia. If you resist we will create another little isreal nearby your oil fields to keep your third world hole in line.

Your college education? It will mean nothing as you slave away all day pumping oil by hand from a russian hand pump oil well- bottom line: that day of work for you will probably produce enough gas for me to drive to work the next day.

Answers. (none / 0) (#33)
by tkatchev on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 11:49:52 AM PST
Some answers for you:

  • We produce enough oil to keep our country energetically self-sufficient, and even then enough is left over to keep the rest of the world running.
  • The Middle East doesn't really affect our gas prices. (Except inasmuch as any political crisis makes the markets jiggle.)
  • The more demand for Russian oil there is, the more money all of us get. Believe me, there is more than enough for everybody. (And us, in the first place.)
  • There is already a Chechnya, and has been for several centuries.
  • Gas pumps are automatic here, since unlike for the Arabs, for us it's not enough to just stick a hose into the sand. Probably because of all that permafrost in the far north.
  • I won't even go into natural gas. (Which we, unlike you, can use to power our cars as easily as oil.) Gasprom alone controls over 25% of the world's natural gas production. We could keep Europe cold and hungry if we wanted to; but we don't, since unlike you we don't have a small-penis complex.
  • Any Mid-Eastern conflict automatically raises the market price for our oil.

Peace and much love...

But I was wondering... (none / 0) (#35)
by JoePain on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 03:20:28 PM PST
...which former satilite will we make into an Isreal to keep the rest in line? We have so many to choose from. Georgia seems to be a good prospect: in addition to the fact that we have already landed, most Americans already know how to pronounce it. Do you have any other recomendations?

Georgians are all clinically insane (none / 0) (#37)
by nathan on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 03:50:47 PM PST
I have never met a stable, well-adjusted Georgian.

Nor heard of one.

They can be lots of fun, in the same way that careening drunk on a dirt backroad with no lights can be fun; but I'm too old for that nonsense.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Er really ? (none / 0) (#39)
by dmg on Sat Apr 13th, 2002 at 08:38:04 AM PST
We could keep Europe cold and hungry if we wanted to; but we don't, since unlike you we don't have a small-penis complex.

Europe has North Sea Oil and Gas, and some very close relations with the Middle Eastern nations. I'm interested in why you believe that you could keep Europe 'cold and hungry'. Are you referring to the EU, or the continent of Europe ?

During the cold war, the mighty Red Army did not even dare step across the Iron Curtain into West Germany, for fear of having its ass well and truly kicked by a combination of US and British forces. So what has changed ?

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

Nothing has changed. (none / 0) (#40)
by tkatchev on Sat Apr 13th, 2002 at 09:20:39 AM PST
We could have crushed you like a cockroach 30 years ago, and we can crush you now.

We don't concern ourselves with provincial aboriginals, though. You don't need to worry, since you are mostly worthless. (Well, maybe in a cultural and historical context, I guess.)

You may be blinded by your massive gigantomania, but in reality nobody needs you. We have a problem where I live: don't touch shit if you don't want to smell. This is exactly such a case.

Peace and much love...

PLEASE READ. (none / 0) (#41)
by tkatchev on Sat Apr 13th, 2002 at 09:22:02 AM PST
The above post should contain the word "proverb" instead of "problem".

Very sorry.

Peace and much love...

I am not quite sure what your reffering to... (none / 0) (#42)
by JoePain on Sun Apr 14th, 2002 at 07:52:53 PM PST
Please elaborate.

We have a saying Ketchup.... (none / 0) (#43)
by JoePain on Mon Apr 15th, 2002 at 06:52:55 AM PST
Put your money where your mouth is. Its one thing to say something, its another thing to say something well. To actually backup what your saying is something else entirely. As usual, you are so ambiguous, none of us know what your talking about. As usual, i think your full of shit. Your country lost a contest. Its a damn shame and some people are deeply upset that stalinism didn't begin to control the world. You just wont find any of them in the northern hemispere where this website is.

Question. (none / 0) (#47)
by hauntedattics on Thu Apr 18th, 2002 at 06:52:15 PM PST
Are you and dmg having fun with your national-level pissing contest?

Yep, (none / 0) (#48)
by JoePain on Fri Apr 19th, 2002 at 09:24:57 AM PST
In addition, MY dog Toby is bigger that YOUR dog.

Palestine (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 09:55:44 PM PST
From what I understand, Palestinians are lucky they have a Palestine at all. Imagine some group in the U.S. demanding that they have a country of their own within the U.S. and most of their territory would happen to be where our National/Historical landmarks are. I think the mistake was made when Palestine was granted territory in the first place. I think Bush is supporting Israel not because he's trying to cull out more votes for re election, but because he's not about to reverse an at least 50 year old policy of the country supporting Israel.

insurgents. (3.00 / 1) (#31)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 07:39:40 AM PST
Since the Palestinians were there throughout the duration of the Ottoman empire, it's far more accurate to say that Israel is the insurgent, invasive nation who was granted terrority (though it was not granted nationhood; that they grabbed for themselves).

The Right of Return (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by NoahVale on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 10:05:19 PM PST
We need to acknowledge that the core area in dispute is the right to return.
But let the Phoenicians return. Give back the land of Canaan to the Maltese, Tunisians and Libyans.
If we worship Ba'al in the high places, everyone will have a good time.

But they already do (none / 0) (#14)
by dmg on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 05:28:31 AM PST
If we worship Ba'al in the high places, everyone will have a good time.

Baal worship is common in the corridoors of power.

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

come, come, (none / 0) (#15)
by nathan on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 05:30:15 AM PST
You question with an idle tongue. The Philistines, despite the Biblican accounts, appear never to have inhabited the land of Israel, only the coastal cities in their distinctively Phoenician character. Under your policy, they would only be allowed to return to Tyre, Sidon, Nineveh and the rest.

Anyway, the argument for Israeli return includes the fact that, unlike other nations, the Jews were not dispersed and destroyed in exile, whereas the Poeni rather obviously were.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Philistines and Phoenicians (none / 0) (#27)
by NoahVale on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 05:15:10 PM PST
Phillistines and Phoenicians are two different ethnic groups.
The Israelis called the latter Canaanites. They were the earlier inhabitants.
Phillistines and Hebrews arrived in the Levant at about the same time. The former were previously called Plst by the Egyptians and were among the "peoples of the sea" who troubled them around 1200BCE.
I'm a bit surprised by geography that suggests Ninevah is a coastal city in Phoenicia.
In point of fact Iraq is full of the Jews of the Assyrian exodus. I can't see why the Babylonian exodus should get preferential treatment.

current archaeological thought (none / 0) (#28)
by nathan on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 07:36:46 PM PST
Disagrees with you about the Hebrews "arriving" in Canaan at all.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

more questions (none / 0) (#38)
by NoahVale on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 05:34:53 PM PST
well if you disagree with the arrival of the hebrews. you might as well disagree with the rest of the pentateuch, like the covenant with yahweh. problem solved.

i'm not sure how archaelogy can decide which band of illiterate goat herders arrived in a spot first, given that the jury is still out over whether the indus valley culture was aryan, dravidian or munga. how can we dissern the between canaanite, hebrew or moabite sites in a pre-literate period when they all worshipped similar deities and spoke the same language?

where is ur of the chaldees? is it the same as the sumerian ur, or were ancient people less imaginative with their city naming?

archaelogy and the literary record leave a lot open to interpretation.

Indicting Sharon (none / 0) (#8)
by Illiterate Bum on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 11:04:31 PM PST
Just tossing out a link here that seems to have some relevance to the topic at hand... has anyone else heard of the movement to indict Ariel Sharon? Not quite sure if that would be the best move right now, considering the unstable situation and the lack of a more moderate successor, but nonetheless, it stands as solid evidence that Sharon is something less than human... and even though the terrorist factions of Palestine have committed acts that are reprehensible, are the state-sponsored acts of terrorism that Israel is now (and have been) practicing any better? Where does the proverbial line get drawn? And does anyone else think that Bush's definition of "terrorism" is a bit subjective, at best?

Or I could be spewing forth absurd liberal myths.

The Palestinians are party to immoral terrorist acts that should be treated as crimes against humanity. They should not have been given the territory in the first place. The land by right belongs to the Israelites.

We are allies with Israel. We have always been allies with Israel. We will always be allies with Israel.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

My apologies (none / 0) (#9)
by Illiterate Bum on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 11:21:55 PM PST
for the tired (and most likely incorrectly used) 1984 reference. I'm working rather late and slowly going insane.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

1984 is truly alive! (none / 0) (#10)
by MessiahWWKD on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 11:32:10 PM PST
We are allies with Israel. We have always been allies with Israel. We will always be allies with Israel.

What is funny about this is that we have always been allies with Israel, and we are allies with Israels. Only YHWH can say if we will always be allies with Israel though.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

Why do they make it so easy? (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 02:39:43 AM PST
<quote>Or I could be spewing forth absurd liberal myths.

The Palestinians are party to immoral terrorist acts that should be treated as crimes against humanity. They should not have been given the territory in the first place. The land by right belongs to the Israelites</quote>

I think that deep in their hearts, leftists realize the absurdity of their positions, and sneak in little hints, writing them off as feeble attempts at "sarcasm".

Why is this so difficult to understand? (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 02:12:07 AM PST
  • US President Bush has the blood of thousands of innocents on his hands
  • The Palestinian jihadi go willingly to their deaths because they are secure about their place in heaven
  • The cowardly Israeli military hide behind their tanks and missles because they know they are in the wrong and fear the retribution that will come in the aferlife
  • ONLY Islamic rule will bring peace to the Holy Land
  • ONLY Islamic law can gaurantee peace and safety to the Jews
  • There is more at stake here than the geopolitical power-games of a few debased old men
  • There is more at stake here than trading clever quips on weblogs
  • Look around you. Breathe the air. See the light shining in the windows. Look out the window. See the sky, the clouds. Behind that sky shine galaxies beyond number, hurtling through an infinite vastness. Infinitely vaster still than any and all of this is Allah, who willed all that is into being, from out of an abundance of love. It is that love that is at stake here, the love that the brave jihadi carry with them next to their hearts, strapped in more tightly than the explosive belts around their waists.

    It is the duty of all the decent, responsible citizens of this planet to work for an end to Israel's genocidal war against Palestinians, and to an end of US atrocities against Taliban and Al-Quieda fighters. We must restore Islamic rule to the Holy Land. Only God can save us now.


  • If only God can save you now.. (1.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 05:07:22 PM PST
    then where has he been for the last hundred or so years? Vacation?

    Obviously, more American intervention is needed (none / 0) (#16)
    by Adam Rightmann on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 06:23:57 AM PST
    While many people say the Holy Land is an incurable mess, they also said Afghanistan was unconquerable, and the Balkans were a lethal quagmire. America intervened successfully in the Balkans, conquered Afghanistan, and it looks like Israel has to be the next target.

    I would suggest creating a buffer zone between the West Bank and Israel proper, and totally removing all but American forces from Jerusalem (well, I'm not a big fan of the UN, but perhaps a few well minded UN troops could come along, too). As far as Holy sites in Jerusalem, they would have to be divided. For example, the Dome of the Rock/Wailing Wall. The Jews would get it Saturday and Monday, the Mohammedans Friday and Wednesday, and Christians would get it Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Other holy sites could be similary apportioned, though freeing the Church of the Nativity from it's Mohammedan invaders would be the first priority.

    This will cost, of course, and I only think it's fair for the rest of the world to start chipping in for America's military, as we are protecting you all.

    A. Rightmann

    11:59 on the Doomsday clock. (none / 0) (#17)
    by because it isnt on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 06:34:31 AM PST
    as we are protecting you all.

    You can't imagine the warm and fuzzy feeling I get from knowing that. -- because it isn't

    Do you have your Warsaw Pact Fighter ID cards? (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Adam Rightmann on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 07:10:14 AM PST
    Oh, that's right, you don't need them, there is no more Warsaw Pact, there will be no Communist tanks thundering through the Fulda Gap, there will be no Soviet fighters over the Continent, the US won the Cold War, the Soviet Union disintegrated, and you Europeans are now free to create your United States of Europe.

    You are probably historically challenged, but back in the '80's, when we were going toe to toe with the Russkis, we were much closer to nuclear war. SS-20's in Eastern Europe, neutron bombs in West Germany, plans for fighting from village to village in Germany to stop thousands of T-80s, why, it's a whole new world now, welcome to the Pax Americana!

    A. Rightmann

    Now that's ironic. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by because it isnt on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 08:16:12 AM PST
    You are probably historically challenged

    When you were knee-high to a grasshopper, your old mum was out kicking seven shades of Spanish butt. A bit later, she was kicking French butt too, which was quite a deal because France was busy conquering all the parts of the world that England didn't want. Like Vietnam, for example.

    So, now you're all grown up. How does it feel to be king of the warmongers? Pretty damn good, I'll bet. There's the occasional bout of terrorism, but nothing serious. Enjoy it while it lasts. -- because it isn't

    Spam Mines (none / 0) (#19)
    by DiceMan on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 07:28:45 AM PST
    A friend/colleague of mine came up with a great idea to stop all of this pile of crap as quickly as possible. Seeing as pork is a big no-no in the promised land, why not plant minefields where the mines instead of containing high-explosives that take off a leg or whatever, merely cover the individual with spam or pork? That way, everybody would have to stay home, and the good, honest, pork-eating religions of the world (and atheists of course) would be able to take control of the region. We could turn it into a theme park or something. JesusWorld - Where Miracles Come True!

    Alternatively the elite could just move to the Southern Hemisphere (or cave systems Dr. Strangelove-style) and nuke the whole of the Northern Hemisphere into oblivion.

    The dice tell me though, that the option we should take is to ignore them and let them murder each other into extintion as quickly as possible. It's a shame I didn't roll a 6 or a 5 (pray for second coming of Chirst, and send in my Grandmother to give them a good whack with her cane respectively) as then we might have saved something.

    It's quite simple (none / 0) (#21)
    by Sylvester Q McNamera on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 11:45:17 AM PST
    The man needs a public ass raping, then allow him to continue to lead the a-rabs while wearing a dress. That outta calm his terrorist hiney right down.

    There is nothing like being ass raped in public by a band of rabid rogue farm animals to take the spunk out of a politician. Then, by making him wear a pink little frilly half dress you would make certain that he stays calmed down. After all, those gun toting koran reading a-rabs won't get too worked up if their leader is commanding them to kill innocent women and children while wearing a size 10 summer dress. No, in fact, they will probably find it funny and laugh all the way home before beating up their oppressed wife.

    Oh Sylvester, I can hear you say, that's too harsh, well clifford, I can tell you that sometimes in life you need to show a special kind of tough love and this is indeed one of those times.

    Best wishes,
    --S.Q. McNamera

    Dude, (none / 0) (#22)
    by tkatchev on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 12:52:46 PM PST
    Drugs are bad for you, didya know that? 'Tis true.

    Peace and much love...

    Bah (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Sylvester Q McNamera on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 01:00:38 PM PST
    Save your ad-hominun attacks for one of your nefarious blokes who cares. I'm of the mind to sue your slanderous account for all that you're worth.

    Now I suggest you do my bidding and piss off, you smarmy little retard.

    Best wishes,
    --S.Q. McNamera

    Sue? (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by tkatchev on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 03:05:46 PM PST
    No, wait, I'll give you a few more: :)))))))))

    Please do. This should be so fun!

    Peace and much love...

    mmmmhhhh (none / 0) (#46)
    by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 17th, 2002 at 03:31:14 AM PST
    You don't mind and you will sue.

    What Would Jesus Do? (none / 0) (#24)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 02:00:49 PM PST
    I don't know... or care.

    I'm not sure exactly how Is'rael and the US accomplished this mind conrtol, but what is certain is that if you (Americans) don't pull your heads out of your asses quickly, you will (well, you already are, but that's another story) begin the inevitable decline to mediocrity. It will happen.

    When has it been okay for some county to invade another, kill people recklessly, etc? Why is okay now? The US has selective morality. The irony of it all is almost beyond belief: Is'rael is invading refugee camps and killing people...


    The federal side of your county has completely taken over states rights; it spends most of YOUR money on killing people, or thinking of ways to kill people.

    THe USA is a corporation, you you are the drones. How does it feel to be nothing but a drone?

    Pretty good. (none / 0) (#32)
    by JoePain on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 10:28:37 AM PST
    I have a car, a nice apartment, freedom to walk the streets where/when I choose, et. al-- and I don't even have a mediochre income.

    If I have to sell 8 hours of my life per day to the "Corporation of the United States" to obtain these freedoms, so be it.

    Jealous whining will get you nothing.

    I never said I was Broke (none / 0) (#34)
    by Anonymous Reader on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 02:34:00 PM PST
    You're working for the man. Not God either.

    As an agnostic (today) (none / 0) (#36)
    by JoePain on Wed Apr 10th, 2002 at 03:25:04 PM PST
    I would say that:
    if some eastern religion is correct (to lazy to look up which one) and the western view is wrong (bottom line: universe == god)
    then technically i could be working for both.

    Well (3.00 / 3) (#29)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 9th, 2002 at 11:11:21 PM PST
    Hey Mr. Another Anonymous Poster, it feels pretty good being a worthless drone. You should try it.

    Muslims still don't get it. It's so hilarious to listen to them preach Islam and how Christianity and Judaism are "less perfect" forms of Islam on Monday, and how all Jews and Christians should die on Tuesday, everyone should die Wednesday, but not us Muslims on Thursday.

    It is well-proven that people who use their religion as a shield are weak crying little children inside who had no toys when they were 3 years old.

    Guess what the jihadi is going to do. The "Glorious Jihad" is... how to put it... dying, you stupid towl-head.

    Figure it out. Doesn't matter how many buildings you fools blow up, in Israel, the USA, your own poverty-stricken little countries, wherever, you lose. Its always Non-Muslims: 1 Muslims: 0

    The Israelis hide behind their tanks and missiles, eh? What is Hezbollah doing? Hiding behind the thin veil of international law in Lebanon. What is Hamas, the PLFP, Al Aqsa and Islamic Jihad doing? Hiding behide the neo-Fascists and leftist activists who currently run Europe.

    You can't beat Israel. You can't beat the United States. Hell, you idiots can't even beat each other. Get a life, a job, and lose the headgear buddy.

    Get out (none / 0) (#44)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Apr 16th, 2002 at 12:12:54 AM PST
    The US should simply stop supporting Israel. Without the US to back up it's racist attacks against Palestine, Israel would have to stop fucking over the people of Palestine or risk getting it's ass kicked by every country in the Middle East.

    yawn yawn yawn (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by nathan on Tue Apr 16th, 2002 at 07:06:58 AM PST
    I believe the Middle Eastern countries tried the 'ass-kicking' in 1948. If we saw a serious attempt to invade Israel, the Israelis would pretty much have no choice but to go utterly SACPOP on the Arab nations. Damascus, Cairo and Baghdad would wind up nuked, among other things.

    I fail to see why a US policy of abandoning the Jews to their fate at the hands of Arab hordes would be any more moral than a policy of abandoning the Arabs to the untender mercies of the Israeli secret police.

    Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.


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